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sigue2000
03-08-2005, 13:14
Let's start putting things back together with a classic.

Fallingwater, also known as the Edgar Kaufmann house, is a house on the Bear Run at the address P.O. Box R, Mills Run, Pennsylvania 15464, in southwestern Pennsylvania in the Appalachians. The house was designed by American architect Frank Lloyd Wright in 1935.

Edgar Kaufmann Sr. was a successful Pittsburgh businessman. His son, Edgar jr. [sic], studied architecture under Wright briefly. The Kaufmanns owned some property outside of Pittsburgh with a waterfall and some cabins. When the cabins at their camp had deteriorated to the point that something had to be rebuilt, Edgar jr. convinced his father to hire Wright.

Initially, the Kaufmanns assumed that Wright would design a house that would overlook the waterfall. Wright asked for a survey of the area around the waterfall, including all of the boulders and trees. Wright positioned the house over the waterfall.

Wright adapted the vocabulary of International Modernism—a usually stark and ordered variety used in public buildings— for this organically designed private residence intended to be a nature retreat. The house is well-known for its connection to the site: it is built on top of an active waterfall which flows beneath the house. The fireplace hearth in the living room is composed of boulders found on the site and upon which the house was built. Wright had initially intended that the boulders would be cut flush with the living room floor, but they were left as they were, protruding from the rest of the floor. The stone floors are waxed, while the hearth is left plain, giving the impression of dry rocks protruding from a stream.

The active stream, immediate environment and the cantilevered design of the house are meant to be in unison, in line with Wright's interest in making buildings that were more "organic" and which thus seemed to be more engaged with their surroundings.

On the hillside above the main house is a garage, servants' quarters, and a guest bedroom. This attached outbuilding was built using the same quality of materials and attention to detail as the main house.

The Kaufmann House is now a museum, and undergoing an ongoing restoration. Like many Wright buildings, it was made of somewhat flimsy (often "experimental") materials and has not held up particularly well.

The house had structural problems from the beginning. The contractor built the forms for the reinforced concrete terraces without taking into account the fact that even cured concrete sags a bit after the forms are taken away. The terraces at Fallingwater sagged several inches in the first few years.

In 1996 the Western Pennsylvania Conservancy began an intensive program to preserve and restore Fallingwater. After much study, they added some more steel; post-tensioning the concrete sixty years later.

sigue2000
03-08-2005, 14:21
The official website of the house (http://www.wpconline.org/fallingwaterhome.htm).

An interesting photo visit. (http://www.bolender.com/Frank%20Lloyd%20Wright/Fallingwater/June%2030%202004%20visit%20to%20Fallingwater/June%2030%202004%20visit%20to%20Fallingwater.htm)

sigue2000
03-08-2005, 22:45
Here's the Skip file. I did not modell this and there is some work still to be done, but it's quite elaborate allready.

jparchitectus
03-08-2005, 23:09
Sorry for deleteing two posts...it made his post the way it should be -

alsomar
05-08-2005, 19:41
Very interesting model, congratulations and thanks!!

trogers
05-08-2005, 21:54
Very interesting model, congratulations and thanks!!

...although, the site is so important...wish it was included. Anyone have the site contours? Should be a cinch w/ sandbox tools...

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greggV
10-08-2005, 15:51
Nice model, Sigue!

I like that in your model the guest house is visible. I was as interested in that little space as I was in the main house, but you hardly ever see it in the usual photographic documentation.

Regarding the site survey documentation: maybe this practice would be able to help someone, they were involved in recent renovations:

http://www.astorino.com/passion/special/fallingwater.htm

sigue2000
10-08-2005, 16:00
....your model ...

I don't want credit for modelling this. I just put it back up. i do agree that it is quality.

jake
10-08-2005, 19:36
Here's a render to use as a better preview of the model's quality. Great model.

cobberman
10-08-2005, 19:47
Jake, you do it again and again impressing me with your renders.

Is this a cheeta? or what rendering engine. :rock on:

jake
10-08-2005, 19:59
Maxwell. This is one of the best models I've seen posted anywhere.

::x_site::
10-08-2005, 21:08
Maxwell. This is one of the best models I've seen posted anywhere.
:: you don't visit that many forums then, including Maxwell's....::

drichards
10-08-2005, 22:48
In what sense do you mean?
Maxwell. This is one of the best models I've seen posted anywhere.
Is it the cleanest, or most detailed, or both. I was just wondering why you say this? Did it affect rendering times? Coming from you Jake this is high praise. Please enlighten us mere mortals as to what makes it the best?

jake
10-08-2005, 23:20
What I meant was SketchUp model. I am a member of quite a few forums and see a lot of models. There are certainly better out there. But as long as I can remember this this by far the cleanest and best detailed Sketchup model, freely available, that I have seen in quite some time. No bad geometry, reversed faces etc. Seems very well done.

Johan2004
25-11-2005, 18:35
wow , very nice model. The level of detail surprises me , nice one !

sandropc
26-11-2005, 05:59
Great model, I tested it converting from SU5 to Artlantis R, rendering time: 18 seconds...

sandropc
26-11-2005, 06:01
Another try with Artlantis R, with no external manipulation. Rendering time 1:02 minutes...

sigue2000
26-11-2005, 11:31
Another try with Artlantis R, with no external manipulation. Rendering time 1:02 minutes...
Very nice Sandro! 1:02 minutes! Speed is watcha need.

Juan Gomez-Velez
26-11-2005, 15:00
Friends

Architecture can't be taken home with us. It's experiential, it's kinesthetic. We don't get to see it all at one time, yet as designers we rarely have the opportunity of over viewing an existing building, particularly one like this one that has no tall structures in it's immediate surroundings. This is therefore an incredible way of understanding a building, particularly a building by Wright.

For your thoughtfulness and generosity, thank you, sigue, jake and sandro.

Saludos

Juan

ecgarq
11-04-2006, 19:05
its a wonderful model , thanks .... un saludo desde mexico

jmghobrial
25-05-2006, 23:00
it's Wonderfull
really thank you

arrestme
04-11-2006, 00:35
Here's some renders done in Podium. Just as a test.

arrestme
04-11-2006, 00:36
2#

arrestme
04-11-2006, 00:36
3#

legendaireblader
09-04-2007, 00:18
I think many of u got this video, but i share it anyway ( who knows )

Frank Lloyd Wright in Half Life 2-digitalurban.blogspot.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqsk4WARk2I)

mbroughton
17-04-2007, 12:36
Hi

Im currently writing a 3000 word report on Fallingwater, does anyone happen to know about the materials used and their locations found in relation to the site, and any detailed web pages on the construction and restoration of the building?

any help would be greatly help!

Matt

(If you can help could you contact me on this site or broughton.matt@gmail.com, cheers)

rathisha
17-04-2007, 18:34
Here's a render to use as a better preview of the model's quality. Great model.

hi jake did u prepare the model of ur own. great:clap:

Frenchy Pilou
07-09-2007, 02:16
by Cristobal Vila (http://www.etereaestudios.com/docs_html/fallingwater_htm/fallingwater_index.htm):)
but sorry if you don't see before because :(
Whishing that is just for some days!
Due to an extreme bandwith consumption,
I have temporarily removed every movies on my site

imasayer
07-09-2007, 02:24
Great video, thanks for the post. Man, 70 years later and this is still an amazing work of architecture by todays standards.

tommyoh
07-09-2007, 02:28
that was stunning! :craqueur:

emow54
07-09-2007, 04:50
:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Juan Gomez-Velez
07-09-2007, 05:26
Frenchy

Extraordinary!!!...........Thank you once again for sharing those things that catch your eye....and your heart.

Saludos

Juan

franjayo
07-09-2007, 06:54
Thanks Frenchy, in some ways more than being there.

Frenchy Pilou
07-09-2007, 09:53
Hehe :)

mikaztro
15-09-2007, 13:39
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/mikaztro/soprano_sketch2.jpg
Sketchies

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/mikaztro/sopranos2.jpg
Vray for Sketchup

Sopranos in Falling Water House
Elements of wood, steel, concrete, glass.
Render time: 3hrs
Furnitures used: Le Corbusier sofas and Philip Johnson chair.
House: Falling water house by Frank Loyd Wright.
Inspired by "The Sopranos" HBO tv series.

I intentionally did not highlight the whole image. A mixture of monochrome presentation to match the elements I mentioned. I did not infuse bumps on the carpet, brick and concrete to reduce the render time.

sigue2000
15-09-2007, 21:40
Is this a new model? Or the one from here (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98&highlight=falling+water)?

If it's the new one, and as you have chosen the model section, will you post it here?

kwistenbiebel
15-09-2007, 23:37
...he he...and yes a fully textured update on FL Wrights Falling water model would be great.
If the texturing follows the real thing that is.:)

mikaztro
16-09-2007, 07:44
Is this a new model? Or the one from here (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98&highlight=falling+water)?

If it's the new one, and as you have chosen the model section, will you post it here?

Hello Sigue! I'm sorry, I forgot to thank you and the one who made the falling water house skippies. Yes, it came from the link that you gave. I just added some materials and modified a few finishes.

Regards,

Mike

mikaztro
16-09-2007, 07:45
...he he...and yes a fully textured update on FL Wrights Falling water model would be great.
If the texturing follows the real thing that is.:)

Hi Biebel. Your Ando render really inspired me to do this. Thanks.

SWANK-E
16-09-2007, 07:46
the materials seems to be quite incorrect, and the background shot is definitely wrong

mikaztro
16-09-2007, 07:48
the materials seems to be quite incorrect, and the background shot is definitely wrong

Yes..you are correct. The backdrop is Manila cityscape. I intentionally put the backdrop to signify where the renderer came from. :) By the way, I'm from the Philippines.

Frenchy Pilou
16-09-2007, 13:54
And don't miss this one!
http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6901 :cheers:

jenujacob
19-09-2007, 16:28
u can find this and some more at http://es.youtube.com/etereaestudios

Frenchy Pilou
19-09-2007, 17:37
:clap:
and now with youtube non problem of bandwidth! :cheers:

huyvuvietnam
08-07-2008, 04:15
http://www.suvn.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3547&posted=1#post3547

Henrique.arq
14-07-2008, 01:55
Congratulations!
Very complete model!