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swami
07-10-2005, 19:48
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swami
07-10-2005, 19:49
opened at Brooklyn's Pratt Insititute in September. Sandwiched between two landmarked brick buildings, the $10.5 million insertion adds a modern touch to the historic Clinton Hill district. The insertion connects the two wings of the hall, which house Pratt's architecture school.

Holl's firm was hired for the job soon after a fire in 1996 burned down a building in the same location. The new 22,500-square-foot section is supported by six precast-concrete beams and enveloped in interlocking U-shaped, structural channel-glass backed with translucent white insulation. It joins two buildings whose floor heights are mismatched by an inch on one story and by almost five feet on another. Clear glass windows in the new section intentionally expose this so-called "dissonant zone, showing the ramps which connect the misaligned floor plates.

swami
07-10-2005, 19:49
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swami
07-10-2005, 19:53
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swami
07-10-2005, 19:55
Does anyone have a copy to post of the conceptual rendering of this project
from two years ago?
It was a really beautiful.
The final design turned out a bit different in terms of the look of the glass.

digdoi
07-10-2005, 20:46
Does anyone have a copy to post of the conceptual rendering of this project
from two years ago?
It was a really beautiful.
The final design turned out a bit different in terms of the look of the glass.

Sometime ago I saw at Archidose an article about this "hey, my building is not looking like the renderig" thing on another Holl's building, the Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art. Here's the LINK (http://archidose.blogspot.com/2005/03/holl-truth.html)

swami
07-10-2005, 20:54
Sometime ago I saw at Archidose an article about this "hey, my building is not looking like the renderig" thing on another Holl's building, the Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art. Here's the LINK (http://archidose.blogspot.com/2005/03/holl-truth.html)
This design is doing exactly what happened at Nelson Art, the solid frosted glass volume is fritted into vertical panels, which are radically different in appearence, and look horrible during the daytime. :( (hence the night shot)
Sadly, this seems to be an ongoing schism between the work presented and the finished building.

jake
07-10-2005, 21:50
I absolutely just love the last line of the article.

“I wish we had this much discussion whenever we built a Wal-Mart,” landscape architect Matt Schoell-Schafer said.

swami
07-10-2005, 22:06
This glass system is Pilkington's Profilit.
Intended for curved surfaces, hmmm :wondering

CrazyBelgian
07-10-2005, 22:21
I've been trying to use this channel glass in several projects for a while, but it's either to expensive (for a parking ramp) or it doesn't have a good enough R-value (when you double it up you get some kind of air space in between, but for the cold winters here it's not good enough)

Hey, at least I can look at the samples and imagine what they would look like on a project.

As far as I remember, channel glass was initially intended for industrial purposes in 'old Europe', not necessarily for curved surfaces ...

MICHEL
07-10-2005, 22:29
Check REGLIT (http://www.reglit.com/about.htm) website for more.

digdoi
07-10-2005, 22:36
I found this image of the model. Here the glass is very similar to the real, I think. :wondering

PeterE
07-10-2005, 23:28
(when you double it up you get some kind of air space in between, but for the cold winters here it's not good enough)

Crazy,

Says "... structural channel-glass backed with translucent white insulation".

PeterE
07-10-2005, 23:30
This design is doing exactly what happened at Nelson Art, the solid frosted glass volume is fritted into vertical panels, which are radically different in appearence, and look horrible during the daytime. :( (hence the night shot)
Sadly, this seems to be an ongoing schism between the work presented and the finished building.

Daytime shot:

primocordara
07-10-2005, 23:58
Now that you mention, all brochures of this glass are pictures taken by night!

Matias Klotz uses it in some houses, even pictures of this house are taken by night!

swami
08-10-2005, 01:04
Daytime shot:

there's a day shot. Thanx PeterE.
I have a hard time criticising someone who I would normally defend at any turn. It's really nice in context of his signature artifice entryway.
Stephen Holl is one of my favorites from way back, seen his lecture,
have a book or two. But I'm a little thrown by the expanse at which he'll clad every inch of the volume with it. Sure it's for museums with secondary light issues, it seems a departure from his past theories to move on to an appeal toward some unfinished business with modernism.
Retro can be fun, but not Mies van der Rohe.

takesh h
08-10-2005, 03:10
"... structural channel-glass backed with translucent white insulation".
This combination of glass + translucent insulation has been very popular in Japan.
I could show you guys many examples from the last five years.
This is naked house by Shigeru Ban.

takesh h
08-10-2005, 03:12
This is Plastic House by Kengo Kuma.
Notice how lame it looks during day.

takesh h
08-10-2005, 03:17
Natural Edge by Masaki Endoh.
The plastic insulation is recycled Goretex.

lavardera
08-10-2005, 03:45
This material looks like the Kalwall product sold here in the US. That you could get with white polyester insulation filling the voids for additional insulation, and I think they offer it with aerogel now.

Syed_LINIT
18-10-2005, 17:16
The glass in the images is LINIT channel glass from the Lamberts factory in Germany, the largest independent specialty glass manufacturer in Europe. For Higgins Hall, 504 RoughCast, the most popular texture in the line, was chosen, with most of the channels being Safety Glazing Certification Council (SGCC) certified tempered. Only Lamberts offers 100% heat soak tested tempered channel glass, rigorous testing which prevents installation of glass which may prove to be fragile due to nickel sulfide inclusions and only the LINIT line includes tempered channel glass receiving independent third party verification for safety from the SGCC. A layer of Okapane, an acrylic insulating material from the Schott Corporation, was inserted between the channels of the double glazed vertical installation. Adding Okapane produced an opaque, white aesthetic further enhanced through backlighting - compare day, dusk, and night images of the center section.



The September 26 edition of The NY Times included a story with an image of the Higgins Hall center section, http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/26/ar...gn/26buil.html.



Bendheim Wall Systems is the importer of Lamberts LINIT in North America, for more information call me at 800-221-7379.

jparchitectus
18-10-2005, 18:21
I liked the color pallete better in the night shots. I am not convinced about the red frames. Maybe it is some play on the bricks...but it doesn't seem to work as well in the images.

jake
18-10-2005, 19:23
I also think the 'Cherokee Red' frames look bad. They probably figured that they would be unable to hide the seams and any attempt at hiding them would look bad, so they went in the other direction and make them a feature. Doesn't work for me though the night shot is very nice though.

jparchitectus
18-10-2005, 20:26
Black probably would have worked better...like the impression you get from the night shots.

SWANK-E
19-10-2005, 01:12
Stop spamming