View Full Version : Preliminary study - Community Center - Portugal


Pedro Barradas
02-10-2005, 20:44
Location
- Ourique - Alentejo -Portugal

Type of Project
- Museological/ etnographic room, multi-purpose room, service areas for employes.

Design Parameters
- Make off buliding extension - original building is the local power administrative building (we call Junta de FReguesia, similar to a paroch, but nothing to do with religion, well itīs something smaller than the city hall...)

Design Approach
- We have decided that the design must be simple and that make some kind of coeherenc with the existing one. The building will be done on a previliagiated place, in a unleveled area, next to the health center, court installlations and the employment center. On a high ground.
We proposed to actually disconnect both buildings thru a stair case, bringing natural light and ventilation to possible interior spaces.

The arrangement of volumes make the massive building to break apart, especially from the East side elevation.

Simple forms, cubics, the white of the alentejo limestone paint, the traditional blue pigments and the grey marble of nearby will transpond the traditional values to the building and mimetize better with the surronding buildings.

The pit/ stair case will allow the direct service acess to employes and be a unsusal feature that will mark the public entrance area

Pedro Barradas
02-10-2005, 20:45
East side

Pedro Barradas
02-10-2005, 20:46
Other view - South/East

Pedro Barradas
02-10-2005, 20:50
West side view

Pedro Barradas
02-10-2005, 20:51
Proposed 1 - SITE PLAN

Pedro Barradas
02-10-2005, 20:51
image 1

Pedro Barradas
02-10-2005, 20:52
pict 2

Pedro Barradas
02-10-2005, 20:53
I'll post the footprints soon....

ryo
02-10-2005, 21:00
just seen from facades, the ensemble looks good, nice response to the first building! :)

jcruiz
03-10-2005, 05:43
I agree with Ryo. Both buildings are integrated very well.

ryo
03-10-2005, 07:40
we lack sections and plans to tell more about the project though...

Pedro Barradas
03-10-2005, 11:30
level 0

Pedro Barradas
03-10-2005, 11:32
level -1

Pedro Barradas
03-10-2005, 11:40
Ryo, no sections available yet...still awaiting for client commision approval, or not...

regards

ryo
03-10-2005, 12:30
I feel the basement floor a bit clumsy.
Especially the cafeteria-like room. why not use bench instead of chairs (for example)?...
The general layout is very clean, with the clean staircase serving as articulation between the old and new.

primocordara
03-10-2005, 12:31
Hi Pedro, i seems like a very good addition to the existing building.

One of the key parts is the connection of the two, which I don't understand clearly from your posts, for example, what are the blue volumes? what material?

saudades...

Pedro Barradas
03-10-2005, 13:12
Ryo, the chairs, can be changed to bench, you are wright, itīs a bit clumsy but I had to integrate all the functions there to fullfill with the codes...

The blue elements, are to be plaster painted blue... it will defragment some of level 0 components, like the WC, and the office adittion.
between the 2 WC blue cubes, and aerial passage connects the buildings, making a direct service acess to administrative employes.

jcruiz
03-10-2005, 19:33
Hi Pedro: One more little thing: Dont forget the expansion joints. Both buildings should be structurally independent.
Juan Carlos

swami
03-10-2005, 19:39
I agree with Ryo, when you get to sections thru the "blue elements"
give us a post.
This looks tricky to cap flash and still have the massed out look.
:cheers:

Mounib
08-10-2005, 11:59
Hi Pedro, I like your design and how you integrated with the existing building.
I like the blue volume to connect the two building, nice combination with the white color.
Good design & nice presentation.

Francesco
11-03-2006, 14:50
More on this, Pedro ?

WilsonMetry
11-03-2006, 18:24
Sorry I missed this thread the first time.

Pedro, very good solution. It is well matched and has the restraint of experience. I have become a fan of your work! :)

You mentioned your materials and was curious about this: "the white of the alentejo limestone paint" Are you referring just to the color or is there limestone (dust or otherwise) mixed into the paint or something else?

Looking forward to hearing about any progress.

Olavito
11-03-2006, 18:42
Thatīs a good response to the existing building, though it must be perceived that itīs an addition (I think) anyway, good design and presentation..
cheers

Pedro Barradas
03-05-2006, 10:00
Sorry I missed this thread the first time.

Pedro, very good solution. It is well matched and has the restraint of experience. I have become a fan of your work! :)

You mentioned your materials and was curious about this: "the white of the alentejo limestone paint" Are you referring just to the color or is there limestone (dust or otherwise) mixed into the paint or something else?

Looking forward to hearing about any progress.

wilson, limestone paint is just that itīs a paint made with pulverized limestone and water, then you just paint the facade (at least 3 coats) usually used on traditional buildings (made of heavy height walls. compact earth - " Taipa" or "Adobe" and or stone masonry plastered)

Today I'll post an update to this project, so we develop some changes to the plans...

thanx...

Pedro Barradas
03-05-2006, 11:05
The updated entrance floor

Pedro Barradas
03-05-2006, 11:07
Now the -1 floor, with the clumsiest, solved, I believe.... :D

franjayo
03-05-2006, 11:37
Pedro,

The building is an excellent complement to the existing and I see the plan improving. Can you explain more about your plan for the structure? The existing one has more column support than the proposed one, shorter spanes and simpler support. The new one has relatively long spans without columns and the potential columns do not continue with a substantial mass to the top floor on the east, where you also have a cantilever.

I like the slanted roof of the existing structure which is contemporary but slanted. I wonder about the lime paint too. You mention traditional blue, I wonder if you mix indigo with lime ( we call it aņil). How does it work and resist time? Even in good modern acrylic paint mixes blue is a very difficult color which fades quickly.

Francisco

Pedro Barradas
03-05-2006, 13:30
Pedro,

The building is an excellent complement to the existing and I see the plan improving. Can you explain more about your plan for the structure? The existing one has more column support than the proposed one, shorter spanes and simpler support. The new one has relatively long spans without columns and the potential columns do not continue with a substantial mass to the top floor on the east, where you also have a cantilever.

I wonder about the lime paint too. You mention traditional blue, I wonder if you mix indigo with lime (we call it añil). How does it work and resist time? Even in good modern acrylic paint mixes blue is a very difficult color which fades quickly.

Francisco

Francisco, thanks for the comments,

regarding the structure, we are going to do a much robust and technically evoluted structure (again in reinforced concret) alowing the cantilever and bigger spams...

The lime stone paint or "lime milk" can be as you sad incorporated with natural pigments, for this strong blue we can use Cobalt oxide. However as we are dealing with an public building and a new construction, I´ll recommend the use of silica paints, reducing maintenance...

(you are wright about the fading colours... a big problem, but we espect to repaint the building at least every 4/5 years) - Lime paint must be repaint every year :( )