hi
this is my first post here at PPB. I wondered if any of you guys knows about any new project that is build inside an historic building which includes an antique facade conservation and possibly some constructive or structural detalis of it.
thanks!!!

Herzog and De Meuron did one with a plant/factory...


One of the team's largest works is the conversion of a giant power plant on the Thames into the new Tate Gallery of Modern Art, a centerpiece of London's millennium celebration.
Photo: Margherita Spiluttini

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I think you are going to have to give a little more info for a response that is going to be of any help to you. ie, what you are trying to achive, what the projet is for, etc.

Unless of course you are jp! :cheers:

Tate.org (http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/)

Unless of course you are jp! :cheers:

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Hi Preeti. Nice to see another chilean here in the PPB forum. I can tell you that in Valparaiso douwntown, there are two important heritage buidings with preserved facades. the first is Grace Buiding in Sotomayor Square, near Aruro Prat´s monument. The other one is Compañia de Gas Building at the end of Argentina Avenue. The trick is stabilize the facade structure untill the inside core is done.

`Here you are, the link to another important project.
http://www.musee-orsay.fr/ORSAY/orsayesp/HTML.NSF/By+Filename/mosimple+built+index?OpenDocument

Check also this project by HdM ----> Küppersmühle Duisburg

Info (http://www.arplus.com/broch/articles/jun99/herzog.htm)
more Info (http://www.thinker.org/tours/tour.asp?tourkey=571)

Ando's The International Library of Children's Literature was an interesting piece.
He either enveloped the old building with glass or build a new structure within the old (literally, a room in a room).
This latter, the smaller structure within the old was possible because new users are mostly children, therefore smaller in scale.
I went there but didn't take any photo. I'll direct you to some photo sites.

http://www.galinsky.com/buildings/childlit/
http://www.arcspace.com/architects/ando/library.htm
http://arfo.maxs.jp/tokyo/kodomo/index.htm
http://markb-photo.que.jp/Tkyarch/0006.html
http://www.asobi-map.com/kodomo_tosyokan.htm

Another nice project: the Gasometer in Vienna, Austria

The gasometer are four former gas tanks build in 1896, which were revitalised in an extensive manner from 1999 to 2001. The Gasometer left the function to store gas - it changed to a new great building with appartements, students dormitories, bureaus and a large entertainmentcenter with cinema and music-hall.

Gasometer A: Jean Nouvel
Gasometer B: Coop Himmelb(l)au
Gasometer C: Manfred Wehdorn
Gasometer D: Wilhelm Holzbauer

LINK (http://www.wiener-gasometer.at/de/gasometer/)

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Nothing offensive. You just post really fast. I wrote two sentences back to him and by the time I was done you had two posts up already. I was asking for more info to try to think of something and you already had something in mind.

I remembered I had this two shots of Reina Sofia Modern Art Museum in Madrid
This building once was an hospital.

Reina Sofia museum by day

thank you guys for all your comments
I need this information because a have to propose a diferent constructive detail of the union between de old facade and the new building walls for this proyect:

this image shows that the building slabs are the only point where a union can be done

here it is the existing detail. but por an hypotethical project, i have to porpose another union. So i need information about those kind of constructive details..thanks!

Nothing offensive. You just post really fast. I wrote two sentences back to him and by the time I was done you had two posts up already. I was asking for more info to try to think of something and you already had something in mind.


Ha Ha...Thanks, you will see after time things become predictable, and patterns of questions reveal themselves. It is a certain mentality I guess.

here it is the existing detail. but por an hypotethical project, i have to porpose another union. So i need information about those kind of constructive details..thanks!
Al ver el detalle constructivo, y la fotografía, creo haber entendido como trabaja la unión entre los dos edificios:
Estos son casi totalmente independientes estructuralmente. Ninguno le entrega al otro cargas de ningún tipo, salvo que el muro antiguo puede rotar libremente en torno a la arista de su base hasta un cierto punto. Cuando en un sismo, el muro viejo se rota hacia fuera o hacia adentro mas de la cuenta, es decir mas de 3 a 4 cm, entonces actúa el tensor de acero que va anclado en el edificio nuevo cada 1,00 m. Este impide que el muro viejo se voltee. El tubo de PVC permite que el tensor tenga mas flexibildad hacia arriba y abajo y hacia los lados. Si se dejara mas corto, podría cortarse por demasiado esfuerzo de corte.
Me parece una solución económica y muy inteligente desde el punto de vista estructural.. Difícil encontrar otra que reúna esas dos condiciones básicas.

When seeing the constructive detail, and the photography, I guess to have understood how the union between both buildings works: These are almost totally independent structurally. No one gives to the other loads of eny type, unless the old wall can rotate freely around the edge of its base until a certain point.
When in an earthquake, the old wall rotate outside or inwards more than hoped, let`s say about 3 to 4 cm, then the steel tension bar that goes anchored in the new building 1.00 meter o.c. acts.
This prevents that the old wall turns around and collapses. The PVC tube allows flexibility to the tension bar upwards and down and towards the sides. If it were shorter, it could be cut by too much shear. It seems to me an economic and very intelligent solution from the structural point of view. Difficult to find another that could work better.

muchas gracias Jcruz!
la mayor critica al proyecto es que, pese a que es eficiente en cuanto a su respuesta ante el sismo, creo q ese espacio y su union merece ser evidenciados como un punto de union importante en el proyecto, no solo una vaina de pvc. es por eso q a solucion pretende lograr el mismo efecto ante el sismo, pero da partir de un detalle mas "arquitecturizado"

hey guys
does anyone know how this technic with pvc called and where somreone can find more
informations