Master's toilet

I rendered this using Vray for Sketchup.

C&C are welcome.

Overlooking the view of Taal Volcano in Tagaytay City, Philippines

test render for the bedroom.

another view of the interior with sun

By the way, don't mind the render time in the 3rd and 4th image. Vray compiled the render time after I've cancelled my test renders. Probably around 1.5 hrs rendering time average for both images.

indoor pool

:clap:awesome renderings, ill hopefully produce images that well when I get my new comp this winter, do u have more renderings, exterior perhaps? and its a residential project?, any info on the program would be great

Nice, would you mind sharing us some parameters or did you hardly change the settings of vray to achieve such result in such little time?

Your 4th render, isn't there some kind of light coming out of the floor or stair (cant really see what it is) but on the left side of the render something seems fishy


Btw did you use HDRI for the global illumination? Does Vray take the time and date settings from the sun from Sketchup cause my shadows are never the same as the ones in Sketchup

I really think you should provide some more information with your images and posts beyond what you've posted.

Sooner or later a Moderator or someone else will direct you here, (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2747) with instructions on how to post and the forum objectives.


.....suffice it to say, you'll also be informed that this isn't a render showcase gallery. At the very least, help others out by describing your workflow, process and techniques if you didn't actually design the project.

@Ash & Halsey: Thanks for the comments sir/s.

@Bricklyne: No, i'm not showcasing my 3d skills, in fact i'm showing all this to encourage more users to try SKetchup & Vray(or its equivalent). I'm only a month old 3d user. I never had any experience with any 3d softwares around nor do I have a good background when it comes to Photoshop. Yes, i'm an Architect by profession but my background has little more to do with the 3d render quality albeit my background in architecture helped me with the design, though I don't think my design is good enough for everyone. Ok, i'll post some configurations of my test renders for everyone to try. Thanks for the redirection.

Best regards,
Mike

Nice, would you mind sharing us some parameters or did you hardly change the settings of vray to achieve such result in such little time?

Your 4th render, isn't there some kind of light coming out of the floor or stair (cant really see what it is) but on the left side of the render something seems fishy


Btw did you use HDRI for the global illumination? Does Vray take the time and date settings from the sun from Sketchup cause my shadows are never the same as the ones in Sketchup

Hello Ash! The 4th render(indoor pool) has an opening above the ceiling. That's why there is light coming down from the ceiling and reflected on the pool.

With regards to HDRI, I only use them to remove the light of the Vray/SU sky, then re-apply again the default settings. Yes, I think Vray can adjust to the SU's sun parameter settings, but most of the time, it's not consistent. You should save the visopt settings everytime you render to make sure everything is alright.

This is the visopt settings for the toilet in the 1st image. I saved it in winzip format. You can use it to render indoor, cramped and poorly lighted spaces.

By the 4th render I meant actually the one that proceeds the indoor pool (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32963&stc=1&d=1188582170)

I'm impressed by the fact that you're only using 3D software for a month now, and already came up with that result. I guess it's easier today to become a render wiz with all the new software these days, not like 5 years ago when you could only learn through trial and error.

By the 4th render I meant actually the one that proceeds the indoor pool (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32963&stc=1&d=1188582170)

I'm impressed by the fact that you're only using 3D software for a month now, and already came up with that result. I guess it's easier today to become a render wiz with all the new software these days, not like 5 years ago when you could only learn through trial and error.

Oh I see. Yeah, I don't like the render of that image. The light came from the open sliding doors. I hate it how Vray reads the SU parameters. There is a coved light beneath the steps.

Thanks for the compliments. Yes, i'm no 3d wizzard. But hey, I learned it the hard way. I test render more or less 10 to 20 images a day. My 2 pc are open 24 hrs a day. In 1 month, I only had a total of 3 to 4 hours a day of sleep. It is still a trial and error thing like the old school.
I collected materials, compiled & read tutorials and downloaded other resource materials available. Techically, I started using SU only last Jun and then started using Vray last July. The ASGVIS team really helped me a lot in those trying times. And I thank my former renderer for leaving me. That's why I bravely started learning this thing not to be dependent on others. That's basically the moral of the story.

This is the Visopt settings of the 2nd image. Basicaly, it's the same default Vray settings. Usually, I only tweak the camera(physical camera settings) and use Irradiance Map as my primary engine and Light Cache as my secondary engine.

In a few weeks time, I'll probably study 3d Studio Max and Maxwell If I have time.

I've tested your settings with a model I've been dying to render other than in Sketchup I really like the result but there are a few things I don't like about it.
Ok I haven't used vray materials, only the ones I used in Sketchup to test your settings and the faces aren't very correct (I don't know if it's necessary to have the faces up, in maxwell it is) as you can see in the second image. Is this the reason why some of my reflections (which I think are too reflective, I hope a good vray material can take care of that) are purple?
Another thing I'm not happy about and I know Vray has trouble with is the black stains which are only on a few faces, and the blurry wooden texture (maybe also a vray material would take care of that), but the stains, I don't think they will dissapear when I render with vray materials.

Thx for these settings btw, the first actually rendered in less than 10 minutes, something that's impossible with Maxwell, I think I'll stop using maxwell and start using vray now :)

Here is the monochromatic view, I know there are a lot of purple (back) faces here, but that's because I didn't pay attention to it one year ago, now I do ^^

And here default Sketchup material view

Ash, Those designs are terrific! I really like the layout. I think you need to download the "vismats" of Vray in their download section. This will really help the image make it more nice. I think this will probably solve your problem.

By the way, if the reflective objects turns purple, you need to reverse the face. Better yet add the "glass vismats" to it. A little tweak here and there wouldn't hurt.

What i'm now trying to figure out is to how to use the ".mat" files of Vray for 3ds to Vray for SU. I'm still at a loss here. Anyway, I've downloaded a converter in the ASGVIS site. I'll post it here if anything comes up good.

I've already tried that converter, it only works for very basic vray materials, almost nonne of the ones you can find on www.vray-materials.de can be converted with it unfortunately. It makes sense in a way becuz most of the materials there use a lot of things that can't be used in Sketchup but need MAX for it, that's why I'm considering using MAX.

I'm happy you like my designs, do you think using vray materials would also take care of the black stains problem? I'm afraid I'm never gonna make a nice render of that model because there are just too much faces I have to reverse, but that's ok. If you like my design check out the thread about it (pictures and explanation actually start on the second page) http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4430

Also if you're planning on using Maxwell maybe you should read my Sketchup Maxwell tutorial, it's a lot of reading but you'll understand most of it.
http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6184

If you want to see more designs: http://ctrl-ash-del.deviantart.com

I think the black blotches has something to do with the subdivs and multiplier. Try to tweak the subdvis of each parameter settings in the visopts.

Thanks Ash. Much appreciated. I will browse all you've mentioned and see what I can do to apply and improve my renderings. When i start getting my hands dirty with Maxwell, i'll let you know. Hehehe

I think the black blotches has something to do with the subdivs and multiplier. Try to tweak the subdvis of each parameter settings in the visopts.

Thanks Ash. Much appreciated. I will browse all you've mentioned and see what I can do to apply and improve my renderings. When i start getting my hands dirty with Maxwell, i'll let you know. Hehehe

Hey how do you use the vray for sketchup materials that you can download from their site? After you download it how do you input it into sketchup?

And you know how those materials cant show up, how do you make them show up?

I'm really new to Vray for SU :bang head

Hey how do you use the vray for sketchup materials that you can download from their site? After you download it how do you input it into sketchup?

And you know how those materials cant show up, how do you make them show up?

I'm really new to Vray for SU :bang head

Download their tutorial PDF file in their(ASGVIS) servers.

Vray aterials are called Vismats. First, you need to setup the vismats in your Material Options. Create default vray material then right click mouse "Import Vray material". Look the vismats in the ASGVIS directory in the program files directory of your windows. You need to click the surface of the object that you want to apply with the vismats, right click mouse then "Apply materials/edit of Vray linked materials".

HTH,

Mike

im using max8 and vray 1.5 rc2, i dont know how to use HDRI skies in vray, my skies always ending up with green color, after i put HDRI map in Vray environment in skylight and reflection. thanks. i really need your help

im using max8 and vray 1.5 rc2, i dont know how to use HDRI skies in vray, my skies always ending up with green color, after i put HDRI map in Vray environment in skylight and reflection. thanks. i really need your help

In the (M) material editor, choose VrayHRDI, then get HDRI map from the web and click and drag it in the rendering>environment settings tab.

thanks.. but if i change the hdri to spherical the backgroung turns black

Bro, here's the link to the video tutorial.

http://rapidshare.com/files/66916744/02_hdri_setings.avi

man, I'm going to say this objective - please don't get hurt, but I don't like to see this forum's design standards going downwards...

The renderings are good, but the design of the interior is not good.

here's an example of VRAY and good interior design

Bro, this isn't a pissing contest. The images that were posted weren't meant to uplift the design standards of the site. It was meant to educate people on how to use Sketchup and render using the above mentioned rendering software(Vray) in a short time span. Please read 1st page so that you will be informed about the topic itself. I think you're in the wrong thread. Anyways, I think you did a good job in your rendering albeit I have some reservations with regards to the overall design details. I guess different strokes for different folks.

Best regards!

Mike

thanks, but i didn't render it, nor designed it... sorry, I thought this was in the projects forum - didn't see it in the rendering section.

I'm only thinking about why it seems good design with bad renderings seem to have stronger burn in our image mind banks than bad design with good renderings.

Another question is why rendering tutorials are always done with such poor designs. How come we can't ever have a decent tutorial showing great designs. I guess people with those good design skills and good rendering skills combined do not ever wish to disclose or share their trade secrets. Otherwise others may outdo them.

This is what I find true a lot of them, of course there are exceptions to the rule : often enough - good renderers are bad designers and good designers are bad renderers - because they don't have time for each other!

hey mike! thanks man!
it is really a great help!

hey bro, where could i get high resolution HDRI maps, all i've downloaded from the net are samples with medium resolutions.



and does anybody know the dvd by chris nichols, GLOBAL ILLUMINATION EXTERIORS

here's an example of VRAY and good interior design

Why is this good design? Sorry but I disagree. It looks complicated, expensive, not too functional and very design specific. It will surely look dated in a short time.

Ok, whatever... i think it's pretty - Interior Architect wise, not architecturally. Rich well informed, well heeled clients dig this stuff. Anyway not my work, just pulled it from somewhere off the net. I'm just comparing apples to apples as in the Tagaytay project. It seems the client paying for that house is rich.

hey guys, kindly visit the HDRI illumination for exteriors thread.. i've posted something and needs some corrections.. thanks..


bro mike

my kababayan!hehe. pls look at my work in the HDRI illum 4 exteriors thread and kindly give some suggestions in order to make the scene look really realistic.. and with regards also with the water in the pool. my work really sucks! haha.. thanks in advance.

thanks, but i didn't render it, nor designed it... sorry, I thought this was in the projects forum - didn't see it in the rendering section.

I'm only thinking about why it seems good design with bad renderings seem to have stronger burn in our image mind banks than bad design with good renderings.

Another question is why rendering tutorials are always done with such poor designs. How come we can't ever have a decent tutorial showing great designs. I guess people with those good design skills and good rendering skills combined do not ever wish to disclose or share their trade secrets. Otherwise others may outdo them.

This is what I find true a lot of them, of course there are exceptions to the rule : often enough - good renderers are bad designers and good designers are bad renderers - because they don't have time for each other!


Oh I see. I thought you rendered and designed that one. Nevertheless, it's a good render. Perhaps you can share your design details in the design section.

Regards,

Mike

bro mike

my kababayan!hehe. pls look at my work in the HDRI illum 4 exteriors thread and kindly give some suggestions in order to make the scene look really realistic.. and with regards also with the water in the pool. my work really sucks! haha.. thanks in advance.

Ok bro. Pare, i'm still studying on how to use 3dsmax. I'm not still out of the woods yet in Sketchup/Vray. I'll probably take 3dsmax when i'm through with the ins and outs of Sketchup/Vray.

I'm still practising my water rendering in SU. Here's the pool I made in Vray for SU.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/mikaztro/pool2.jpg

wow its really great!

bro help naman, mike.. ive noticed the image ive rendered was i bit blurry compared to the original picture. il post my setting on vray and kindly advice me what to change to make my image look very sharp.. medyo malabo kasi eh.. eto bro:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2346/1871982386_6e8d7d8a65_o.jpg

heres the original image, and its very sharp, very neat
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2050/1851429909_bc507e2ed0_o.jpg

heres my settings in vray;
image sampler:adaptive QMC
antialiasing filter: mitchel-netravali
adaptive rQMC image sampler, clr thresh; .01

indirect illumination: irradiance map and light cache

irradiance map; high
hsph subdv: 50
interp subdv: 30

light cache subdv; 1000
sample size: .01
number of passes; 6

color mapping; exponential..

there you go guys... pls help a poor newbie like me... if theres any adjustment to make in order to make the image more sharply and reduce the little blurry effect pls post them.. thanks guys

elvin

Bro, did you use Vray for SU(sketchup) or Vray for Max? They have different settings.

If you used Vray for SU, try to increase the QMC and change the anti-aliasing filter or no filter at all. Also, try to decrease the sun's multiplier in the environment settings.

Use water map similar to the original and put bump on the water and wood planks(put a little reflection). Refer to original image.

MIKE

Bro, if you are using Vray for SU, try to thinker with the CAMERA settings in the Options. Increase the shutter speed(probably 200 to 400) and decrease the ISO from 125 to 60. HTH.

Render a bigger image and scale it down for viewing.

You can also ask vor Visop files..they contain the render settings.
Mine will not do it for you they only work in Vray for SU/Rhino/... but not in Vray4Max

thanks mike,
bro i'm using vray for 3dmax.

haha prang bumalik aq sa forums ng 3dp nun nakita ko to ah.. hehe astig tlga..
bwal pla ndi mag english dito.. eheh
great renders mikaztro.. !