Here's a model I've been busy working on 4 months ago... time to post it! I already know a lot of you will have something to say regarding the texturing. Well, to those, feel free to update this model. I've been testing two options concerning the corten steel grating: 1. was modelling it 2. was defining it as texture. First option allows nice shadows through the façade, second didn't... frankly, I don't know what's best... Check it for yourself! Hope you run your computer with a powerful graphic card :D Model's not that heavy but it's a pain to orbit around it in SU.
Anyway, here's some info about the project in the architect's words:
"St Andrew’s Beach on Victoria’s Mornington Peninsula is unusual in that it is one of the few locations in Australia where construction is permitted right on the foreshore. Normally the coastline is protected as government owned land however in St Andrew’s there are buildings sited on the beach which face the Southern Ocean. Our site is elevated and exposed to magnificent ocean views and in winter, gale force winds. The house has a protective outer skin made from oxidised steel industrial floor grating which hinge open to form brise soleil shutters. The building is raised on columns with parking and storage underneath. The programme called for a simple three bedroom family house. The plan has two discrete elements – a communal kitchen/meals/living space and a bedroom block. Each element is connected via a promenade deck. To move from element to element and from room to room one has to go outside and then inside thereby being exposed to the heat of summer and the extremes of winter. This strategy was requested by the client as a way of using the weekend house to re-humanise oneself after a week of office work. It serves to de-sanitise the controlled 22degree C built environment to which we have all grown accustomed and to remind the occupants of their own frailty. This building forms part of our on-going research into the evolution of an Australian architecture in the Asian region. Fragments of the outback homestead – the sunroom, the breezeway, the sleep-out are re-organised into an abstract verandah which shelters and protects the occupants while enhancing the fluidity of the spaces and their loosely defined nature. ‘Inside’ and ‘outside’ are deliberately ambiguous. The external environment is filtered through a series of layers so that harsh extremes are tempered and the occupants are held and nurtured by the building."
Location
St Andrews Beach, VIC
Architect
Sean Godsell Architects
Project Team
Project architect: Sean Godsell Architects
Design architect: Sean Godsell Architects
Structural consultant: Felicetti Pty Ltd
Landscape consultant: Sean Godsell Architects with Sam Cox Landscaping
Interior designer: Sean Godsell Architects
Builder: R.D.McGowan Building
Photographer: Earl Carter Photography Pty Ltd
Photographer: Sean Godsell Architects
Building surveyor: Wilsmore Nelson Group
Other Team Members : Hayley Franklin

skippy oooh skippy (wasn't it the name of a kangaroo in some old aussie TV show btw? :wondering)

the real thing #1

the real thing #2

the real thing #3

the real thing #4

...and for once you can even rent it for a weekend! Here's the LINK (http://www.stayz.com.au/24025) with the rates and availability! :D Maybe some of our aussie members could share it for a couple of days and then post a complete coverage of the house :cool: Just picture yourself standing on that deck with a cold beer, hmm?
...one last pic...

hi Michael,
thanks for the model.
can you share the skp model for the version 5?

piff

Please go here (http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-6656707278182684372) for an Animation of the house.

It goes for about 2 and a half minutes, and is 200mb.
I have modified the model a little bit Michel, I hid all the lines on the outer skin, so it didn't look so heavy.

Please see post #31 for my shot at renderings.

...and for once you can even rent it for a weekend! Maybe some of our aussie members could share it for a couple of days and then post a complete coverage of the house :cool:

$1500 for a weekend, sleeps 12 thats just $125 each. Swank-e: 12 sounds like an XS number! :poke fun: :cheers:

Michel can I second the request for a SU5 model please.

Heres the v5 of the model. I hope Michel wont mind.

Heres the v5 of the model. I hope Michel wont mind.

Thx Nandish, I was just about to do it :D

thanks nandish for the file!!:P :P

Excellent model! Thanks Michel! :not worth
I only wish my computer loved it as much as I do... I almost can go out for a coffee everytime I try to orbit! :bang head

Excellent model! Thanks Michel! :not worth
I only wish my computer loved it as much as I do... I almost can go out for a coffee everytime I try to orbit! :bang head

Thanks Paulo. I know... hard to orbit around when all layers on. I Can only suggest you to switch shadows off and turn off the 'skin' layers. That should allow you to orbit much more easily. I hope someone will test the model in some renderer... unless it takes 2 months to generate a nice view with shadows... :D

Now if someone has plenty of spare time to model kitchen and interior furniture... :not worth

What do you think of the purity of the material palette....wondering on this on if it really adds quality or displays a stubbornness...it is for holiday rental; tempted to go and stay

Ooops, here's the plan, finally... nothing exceptionnal on the web, so I took it from the model.

I am actually going to a lecture of Sean Godsell's tonight. I know that the St. Andrew Beach House is one of the works he will be discussing. The presentation should be interesting.

post the recording!

I will see what I can do.

Great Michel.
The Aussies would burn it down when they make a party there...:D

I'm facinated by the cortensteel material, can you tell me more about the difficulties you experienced during the texturing/modelling. When you were modelling, did you allready experienced restrictions "computerwise" on that type of scale building or didnt it came with any difficulties. Could you imagine it to model a building with that material like 10 times it's scale using an overall view?

Thanks Michel -- perfect test for SU6 and the new Maxwell plug-in.

ca. 25 minutes setup time mostly spent finding an HRDI background image that was suitable, assigning mxm arroway floor (and making it more shiny to match the photos), and adding and stretching the cheesy sketchup couch.

Technical info: image was left to render overnight on a 3ghz mac pro. 1500x1125 reached SL of 16.99 after 14 hours.

I'm facinated by the cortensteel material, can you tell me more about the difficulties you experienced during the texturing/modelling. When you were modelling, did you allready experienced restrictions "computerwise" on that type of scale building or didnt it came with any difficulties. Could you imagine it to model a building with that material like 10 times it's scale using an overall view?

Well, as I previously said, I tried two different versions of the mesh, hoping to drastically cut down the file size. I wasn't totally convinced with the mesh texture because it can't cast shadows. The model attached in this thread contains modelled mesh components. I wouldn't do it for any larger building, orbiting around is a real pain... I would say that a mesh texture is ok for outdoor pictures, on a larger scale. As soon as you come close to a building, aiming to generate nice detailled façade or interior shots, then it makes sense to model the mesh. Maybe someone else has a better solution for this. It was a tricky model... but Jimmern picture came out real nice (except for the background picture...), well done! :rock on:

Jimmern- great render; though as mentioned above not the background....it is set in a dry low coastal environment and hovers over the ground....looks like it sits on the ground in your render

So you don't think the swedish pasture setting is a good match for the austrailian coastal terrain? Didn't happen to have any austrailian HDRI's laying about. :)

It was just a quick test - wanted to see how the screens would render as we are currently looking at several kinds of screens for another project. Modeling the screen is the only way to go for a render here - The effect where you can see through it when perpendicular, but not at angles would not work with an opacity map, and that's definately an interesting part of the effect.

You can use component swapping to solve the speed issue, or for a larger building -- use a simple and flat component when modeling to keep the model light, then swap it out for a more complex one for rendering views.

I am actually going to a lecture of Sean Godsell's tonight. I know that the St. Andrew Beach House is one of the works he will be discussing. The presentation should be interesting.

So, how was the lecture? :wondering

Wow! it's incredible!! i found here what i was looking for!!thanx a lot!!

Wow! it's incredible!! i found here what i was looking for!!thanx a lot!!

Now that you found what you were looking for, I hope you'll be sharing and participating to this forum as much as most of us do! Welcome to the ppb²!

No 1.

No 2.

No 3.

Notice no problems with the inverted shadows, I got around this by hiding the skin that was overhead.

It seems that sketchUp shits itself when it is casting a shadow on the camera position, so I hid the section of skin overhead that was casting shadows on the camera and spliced two images together. See Below.

1. Dodgy Shadows

2. Hidden overhead skin

hi, i'm new to this forum, and found great what you are doing here, Michel thanks for this wonderfull model...
here is some renders i made using Artlantis studio.
regards
othmane

The N2

The N3

The N4

The house in the current issue (7+8/2007) of DETAIL (http://www.detail.de/rw_5_Archive_En_HoleArtikel_5797_Artikel.htm) magazine.

The house even has its own WEBSITE (http://www.standrewsbeachhouse.com/html/s01_home/home.asp) now... pppheeewww... no one's renting it for a weekend? :wondering

I like Godsell's work very much but I'm curious to know how this building is kept warm during winter. Surely Australia is not temperate all year round? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is basically just a glass box housed in beautifully crafted metal shell with no insulatory properties?

very nice a nd perfect model

meni compliments

mauroP (Archiradar dot it)

ATL 2.01

ouch... global warming!!!

A week ago I had been to his talk in Melbourne U, and he talked about this house as the product generated from good client. He said the client walked into his office and with the idea, and the client let Godsell do whatever he wanna do.

Anyway, actually this house is pretty the same as his own house in Kew, Melbourne, i mean, style the same, material the same...

Interesting. Won't it get pretty hot in summer?

This was profiled in Monument Magazine, OCT/NOV 2006 for those who did not see......

two more...

plans and inspiration.....

Side panels are hinged.....

I would love to know the loophole for the 'seat'- maybe the width of it exempts from the standard balustrade height...

beautiful house, does anybody know how it is constructed or what it is made from, is there glass behind that metal or can the rain just get in?

I missed this model in my hiatus - Well done!

I would love to know the loophole for the 'seat'- maybe the width of it exempts from the standard balustrade height...

Good point, nicholas. above 1.0m but below 3.0m to GL should require a 1.0m balustrade... I wouldn't think the 'width' of the seat should come into it, after all it is at seat level and susceptible to littles climbing onto the seat and :bang head on the ground.....

Nicholas, re: the seat.
I spoke to my building certifier re: this issue, extract from my email below....

Is there legislation that allows for an element like this to be approved? Yes, and alternative solution under the BCA, but I’m not sure how you would get this one over the line.
I know it is Victoria and possibly on a rural setting but the zoning of a site shouldn't dictate whether or not building works is to meet code or not….Generally correct, the BCA applies across all states and territories, but the building Acts in each jurisdiction can have the ability to declare forms or types of building work to be exempt from codes and standards. I would be surprised however if this building is “legal”.
Interesting...

Is the alternative solution the width ? The BCA is broad sweeping and this is not a rural setting. (Inland a little is hard core suburbia). Land sizes are certainly not rural. Not for from the beautiful Katsalidis house...

Definitely an alternate solution. I suspect the triangular shape is what's getting him over the line. The performance requirements are for a barrier that is:

- continuous for the full extent of the hazard (check)
- of a height to protect people from accidentally falling (check)
- constructed to prevent people from falling through the barrier (maybe)
- capable of restricting the passage of children (maybe)
- strong and rigid enough to withstand impact and pressure of people leaning against it (check)

The two maybes are essentially the same thing - can kids fall through. I suspect the gap under the seat is less than 125mm which is what the BCA Deemed to Satisfy provisions require so that children can't get under it. I suspect Godsell is arguing that the triangular shape of the seat prevents small children climbing onto it, which seems a fair enough proposition and a subtle solution.

The question is who is signing off on the alternate solution? It seems to me he needs either an engineer or appropriately qualified person to sign it off (but what kind? accessibility consultant?) OR he has essentially certified it himself and documented it's suitability. If he's self certifying then I wonder if his Professional Indemnity Insurer knows about it? Also I'd love to see what documentation the council/certifier required to sign off for OC.

Kudos to him though. Should inspire us all to find good solutions outside of the Deemed to Satisfy provisions of the code.

- capable of restricting the passage of children (maybe)


My children would climb over this in a flash; love the solution though would not be able to relax with children around...

awa, I fail to see how the triangular shape of the seat could prevent small children from climbing onto it..... the seat appears to be at normal seating height; I have seen many a child climb onto a chair without assitance from below.

Also, I agree with your last comment; good to see solutions outside DTS provision....

The triangular shape wouldn't give you any foot hold. Also the flat top doesn't give you anywhere to grip so if you can't get your knee up by itself then you can't get up. Obviously this only applies to very small children and I've no doubt my six year old would also be all over it in a flash. Not saying I particularly agree with the argument, but speculating how he's gotten away with it.

I'd be nervous with small kids too, but my two at 6 and 9 I'd trust just fine (after I made it very clear all feet must remain on the inside). It'd be the 2-4 year olds you'd be watching like a hawk. It's certainly not fail safe, but show me a barrier a kid can't push a chair up to and get over if they really want to. There comes a point where any of these sorts of regulations simply become too onerous and we as individuals and parents have to be responsible.

Whilst I don't know if I'd ever push the limits this far it's comforting to know that you still can if you want to bad enough.