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this is my project at university of architectural
it name is Sai gon circuit international
location : dist 2 , sai gon city , Viet nam
total area is 1.380.000 m2
sai gon circuit is build for formular one anh moto GP. It has eleven 14 coners,two main grands and longtrack is 4,5 km
you give your command for me thanks
above is master plan of saigon circuit ang zoom picture of master plan
and ...... groud flood cote +2000
this is main grand A and and start track , and pit land
the graphics are awesome - but is the main focus more on the building or the track - if the building - then i can see whats hapening too well :S
The clarity of your graphics is really good, the project looks good...some more drawings to describe the project would be nice though and maybe a little more info on the project brief ;)
my project are track and build
Hmm...nice images tadao! I specifically like the section of building that extends over the track and the hole in the middle of it - really cool! Not too sure about the circular building on the right of the image in post 12...would have preferred to have the section extending over the track meet the other side with a "lighter" form rather than the circular mass of that building. What program did you use to render the images?
:cheers:
( What program did you use to render the images?)
i use sketch up and photoshop
ok speedway move above road for people , thank badja
and other view of mock up view along start track
Woah! Really nice model tadao...overall a solid project! :cool:
thanks badja ! do you understand it? ok i think you like it
WilsonMetry
29-07-2006, 19:02
TADAO,
Very good project. You must like racing and race tracks as I do. The curves are very organic and are shaped entirely from the idea of speed and movement.
So that speed and movement has also shaped your buildings. Good integration of the all the elements into a very interesting and hopefully good spectator views.
Do you have any shots from the seating areas? What are the spectators seeing? Good views of the interesting parts of the track are essential. I especialy like the back-to-back grandstands at the hair-pin corner. Great view sitting on the tip!!!!!
Beautiful graphics! Was the SU model gigantic??
Tadao you are going to be right up there with this project. You are bang on the elevation , neither overdone nor underdone. And pretty solid form too, speaks miles. Heck of a project. Lots of detailing has been done and it shows.
4 1/2 stars from my side.
this is view entry the main grand .yeh! I had big sketch up file and big mock up
i drawn two month
primocordara
30-07-2006, 02:59
Here the location, great place for a racetrack!
BTW: do you call the city Saigon again? It is Ho Chi Minh in GE.
tadao, A great project - images are terrific. I like the images better than the model - but the model too is very good. Elevations are great!
Well done
Are you studying architecture? what year of the course is this project for?
ok sai gon city is ho chi minh city. i was the fifth year of that time and now i m an architect
and more thanks everybody
thanks primocordara about google earth add
view: an overpass above race track
structure for an overpass (length: 80m)
move under race track and input
sub grand
this is race track for Gocar ( gocar is mini formular one )and amatuer
archurba
31-07-2006, 10:09
Ur work's great and cool for young fresh people in Saigon.
Is this Ur vietnamese name ?
--> Bùi Quốc Bảo
- Đường đua xe công thức 1 quốc tế.
Kiến trúc & Quy hoạch ĐHDL Văn Lang
GVHD: Kts. Đỗ Quốc Hiệp
(source: http://www.hoiktsvn.org/)
thank archurba! im vietnamese !
dung roi bui quoc bao day! cam on ban da biet minh
gaffaman
31-07-2006, 16:31
A really beautiful project. I was wondering, you mention that it is for F1 and Motogp, was it difficult finding the FIA and FIM requirements for track design? I love racing and this looks like it would be a great layout.
Did you visit any other tracks before you designed it? Was Sepang an influence? I ask that because it looks like the spectator area wraps around the hairpin corner, which would be a great place to see the action.
Having the spectator area dive under the track is an interesting idea. I'd like to see more about how that was treated.
Keep up the good work.
thank gaffaman
yet ! i love racing! i visited sepang circuit and shanghai circuit! and i found requirements on internet and asked a lot of people
great work....if you say you were a 5th year student while doing that sort of work:eek: id like to see what you are capable of doing as an architect.:not worth briliant and well done
I SKETCH CONCEPT AND DRAW FREE HAND EVERYDAY
http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2721
http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2941
yes! it is concept!
no, no...what is your concept? all these graphics are nice, but what is the meaning, the purpose behind the architecture?
k@spi_aha
01-08-2006, 19:13
Such a splendid work... nice and rich..
but, yes.. may i know the concept and the process
CurryPork
01-08-2006, 20:06
WOW, you're a supertar
V good work
but can you get rid of the crying blood eye icon...it's a bit disturbing to my eye....
Focus on his great work rather zod ;) ;)
Juan Gomez-Velez
02-08-2006, 01:49
Friends
Most of the work we do are things we participate in, things we share with other prople, care for and at times are very proud of.
This is such a case.
The discussion is as to how we see a formal solution to a rather loose and undefined problem. The thing is to see the results of a process and comment as to the things we can see, then try to state the things we have yet to know more of so as to assess and understand the problem and its proposed solution.
I for one would not demean such an extraordinary and incredibly difficult and intricate effort.
My congratulations to you Tadao, Please, as well as you can find the time and the means, tell us more about your project. We would all like to know.
Saludos
Juan
trogers
no, no...what is your concept? all these graphics are nice, but what is the meaning, the purpose behind the architecture?
yesss! it is my concept! i design it
yesss! it is my concept! i design it
i give up...
i give up...
:D :D :D :D :D
trogers
no, no...what is your concept? all these graphics are nice, but what is the meaning, the purpose behind the architecture?
yesss! it is my concept! i design it
Tadao how did you come with this shape, the form and spaces?
You have very strong form, how did you start your design?
imasayer
02-08-2006, 21:34
i give up...
:D :D :D That made me laugh, in fact I still am. Nice try old buddy!
Nice graphics, great concept!
Nice graphics, great concept!
what concept?
primocordara
03-08-2006, 02:57
what concept?
Tadao concept, of course, I mean, he designed it! :rolleyes:
My concept was influenced by innovations and experience drawn from other circuits in the world. The innovation was taking good advantage of area in the middle of circuits. Furthermore, there was underground path accessing to the central area for friendly usage to spectators. They could have a good view of a racing track above their heads and a that time a thrilling moment really fantasized them. A bridge in the space was designed in order to help spectators have marvelous feeling when look at cars getting started or fininishing, which was really a new design that we rarely find in any other circuits. The shape was made so effective that provide spectators good general views.
My concept was influenced by innovations and experience drawn from other circuits in the world. The innovation was taking good advantage of area in the middle of circuits. Furthermore, there was underground path accessing to the central area for friendly usage to spectators. They could have a good view of a racing track above their heads and a that time a thrilling moment really fantasized them. A bridge in the space was designed in order to help spectators have marvelous feeling when look at cars getting started or fininishing, which was really a new design that we rarely find in any other circuits. The shape was made so effective that provide spectators good general views.
this is a concept? :puke: what innovations? using something already done?
I don't think this defends your form or layout well. At all.
this is a concept? what innovations? using something already done?
such as the shanghai F1 circuit
you can't call that a concept. that's just the pragmatics and your intentions. what is the actual concept that drove the design in form or in expression?
imasayer
04-08-2006, 16:32
such as the shanghai F1 circuit
you can't call that a concept. that's just the pragmatics and your intentions. what is the actual concept that drove the design in form or in expression?
Doesn't sound like there is one. Does that affect the quality of the
building(s)? Maybe this is a topic for another thread. Maybe things would be more united had there been a concept.
yes, that's an interesting question. but when asked he said that's his 'concept'. that's not a concept
only judging from what he said
imasayer
04-08-2006, 16:40
yes, that's an interesting question. but when asked he said that's his 'concept'. that's not a concept
only judging from what he said
You are right of course, just asking. Is it possible that "concept" is not pushed in education in other parts of the world?
I guess I should comment on the building (complex) if I am going to post in this thread. I like several pieces of of what was done here, but I would have like to have seen a clearer composition of things that work together to support a single idea. (concept, if you will) I think the graphics are impressive, but the place to me would lack power.
You are right of course, just asking. Is it possible that "concept" is not pushed in education in other parts of the world?
I would think that the idea of a concept would be the only thing similar everywhere...everything else is different. My uni teaches theory and idea, only until you reach the real world do you actually draft and get an idea of how something is truly built. Not to say that I didn't learn about framing methods, concrete, steel, etc...but we learned these things to push the boundaries of what these materials are and do.
Juan Gomez-Velez
07-08-2006, 05:27
Friends all, Kevin and Trogers in particular
I think that at times we can become somewhat exasperating as we seek to clear things out and may be misunderstood. All of us consistently wish we could ask the dead creators of many buildings we admire as to what their concept was, yet we can't. We presume or propose one from what we see and may already know and base our judgement on our own interpretation of the facts we are aware of as well as the reason we believe made way for their proposal. Does this make their work less merit-worthy to our eyes? Being this the case I feel we may be less exacting in our comments , and I've come to believe our dissatisfaction is just a matter of faulty communication.
The poster subject of our discussion does not manage English with the ease others may be able to. This being the case, I feel that both Kevin's and troger's comments may be somewhat unfair.
Perhaps we should say we don't see an underlying concept, that we don't understand what were his, or his teams' strongest intentions, rather than express ourselves in a way that would have him understand our words as saying that we feel his efforts are worthless to our eyes solely because he has not been able to explain it to our satisfaction.
As a matter of course most of us would rather say that we don't like it, that we ( or you) feel that it is more of the same, and do so strongly, clearly, and politely. You see I feel that no genuine effort is worthless in itself, in any case we may easily transform it into a lesson, a discussion, an exchange of different points of view. We don't have to agree, we just have to agree to disagree, respectfully.
Lawyers have made of questioning a delicate, incisive and productive exercise, Socrates originally sought to make it the primary means of achieving understanding, of reflection and revelation. Perhaps we should too.
Some examples:
What circuits did the team study and wished to copy or improve upon?
Why?
Did the team have any consultant from within the racing community?
If so, What did they contribute to the design?
What was the most important element or statement within the design that had to be present, in any or all of the solutions that were considered prior to selecting the one you developed fully.
What was the circulation pattern the design sought to propose?
Where was the entrance placed?
How many persons were to be considered as part of this experience?
How were they to be moved?
Were sight-lines considered?
How were these handled?
Besides that, all the rest of us should think; Is there anything we like about this design, this formal proposal, this presentation although we don't agree with it in it's entirety?
If so, can we share it here, say it out loud so to speak?
Besides this I'd say to k@spi_aha, wait up, no one here wishes to make you look "dumb". All of us, kevin and Trogers included are probably just curious, and you are our only source of information. Although it may be troublesome, please, help us out, tell us more, and if possible tell us all.
Just my two cents
Saludos
Juan
the first! i want say " thanks juan"
and ...
i want say "swank-e is super moderator but he had egoism and selfishness!"
or he dont unstand me"
i think i have good remark from my proffessor and had medal for my project
i think i have good remark from my proffessor and had medal for my project
sorry, that means nothing here.
if you don't like critique, then please don't post here.
WilsonMetry
09-08-2006, 16:32
sorry, that means nothing here.
if you don't like critique, then please don't post here.
Ouch, that is harsh for a man barely able to speak English. I hope it is just a misunderstanding of languages.
swank-e ! you dont know about racing and you dont understand concept shanghai ! i cant say because you dont know race track,racing
ok i will post concept of shanghai
before i think about circuit and work my project , i studied racing and to apply for membership to racing club
The poster subject of our discussion does not manage English with the ease others may be able to. This being the case, I feel that both Kevin's and troger's comments may be somewhat unfair.
i certainly don't think it's a language problem juan (afterall, we are visual people and should be able to communicate with the design or with drawings). it is simply a case of attitude problem. i have been monitoring him for quite a while.
this is my group! you must racing and you understand it!
primocordara
09-08-2006, 17:12
Ok Tadao, Pushpullbar is a community open to critique, we are all humble enough to swallow our pride and take criticism in the understanding this will eventually lead us to be better professionals.
Kevin just made a remark he is totally entitled too, and I don't like your attitude flashing a medal to wipe out any Pushpuller's critique.
You can go to the sketchup forums if you just want to publish you works without critique...
this is my group! you must racing and you understand it!
No you don't. If so, museums should be designed by artists and libraries by librarians.
Remember the only part of this project exclusively dedicated to the racers is the race track itself. All the rest must fit the needs and expectations of the public. I can assume you are probably an excelent race track designer, but it does not necessarily make you a good architect.
Maybe we don't know nothing about racing, but we definitely know something about architecture and as primo said this is a community open to critique.
CurryPork
09-08-2006, 19:30
I actually enjoy this project and I think the graphics and the model are very well done. And architecture can be achieved without a main concept. Concepts are overrated. But not to contradict myself, I do believe you need to have that main backbone to tie your architecture around.
And I can't believe somebody actually posted a gold medal. You should wear that around your neck for those AIA meetings.
And I can't believe somebody actually posted a gold medal. You should wear that around your neck for those AIA meetings.
LOL :D :D :D
That just reminded me of going to an AIA event where you have these tools walking around wearing those things... I don't mean to cut on our profession but come on... Talk about humility... wow!!!!
imasayer
10-08-2006, 17:09
LOL :D :D :D
That just reminded me of going to an AIA event where you have these tools walking around wearing those things... I don't mean to cut on our profession but come on... Talk about humility... wow!!!!
I would only wear a medal if I had a t-shirt under it that had a huge middle finger printed on it. (in black of course) Wouldn't want to leave anything for the imagination!
I would only wear a medal if I had a t-shirt under it that had a huge middle finger printed on it. (in black of course) Wouldn't want to leave anything for the imagination!
ahhh...a black shirt with a black middle finger.
Or perhaps two arrows for the usual:
"<-----I'm with stupid ---->"
spadestick
10-08-2006, 19:20
this is the first time I'm looking at this project and I must say that this is simply the attitude of many braggers from the poorer nations who come from the poor/middle class backgrounds and who tend to show off and flash around their newfound "wealth" when it happens. It's a very off-putting attitude to others, but it happens because in their world, bubbled in a "big fish eat small fish" society... a socialogical diesease. a "I'm better than you and that's that". Humility is an unknown concept.
I'd say that this project lacks a cohesive language and is a mish-mash of many different things all going on at once.
Show me your Porsche GT3 first, then we shall talk, your bike is nothing, cheap equipment. I'll kick you on the bends.
I am too stupid to spend my time and read all of this damn thread. However, I just want to say that you guys should sympathize with tadao. The problem is not his language at all. I've spent many years in that Vietnamese Architecture Uni and I can understand how good these students are :D For them, concept is nothing. God knows how :D
Actually, most of young architects just want to show their off ;) And the truth is that most of these projects are on the paper only, not in reality :D
I am too stupid to spend my time and read all of this damn thread. However, I just want to say that you guys should sympathize with tadao. The problem is not his language at all. I've spent many years in that Vietnamese Architecture Uni and I can understand how good these students are :D For them, concept is nothing. God knows how :D
Actually, most of young architects just want to show their off ;) And the truth is that most of these projects are on the paper only, not in reality :D
on what basis are their projects graded? I fail to see why we should sympathize...
The grade is based mostly on the graphic skill or freehand drawing skill. The meaning of sympathize I used does not take its real meaning but a bitterly satirical tone. In my opinion, his behavior is too bad to be a good architect.
Nice image and great design. I want to see the true building like this design.
thank NTU and thank everybody ! but i can't say, because i think pushpullbar is playgroud
thank NTU and thank everybody ! but i can't say, because i think pushpullbar is playgroud
Whats childish Tadao is that you couldn't take any real criticism of anything from your project... your actions speak louder than your design and you will have a hard time gaining any respect from anyone here with that attitude... take your lumps and be a man
Mcarroll637
06-01-2007, 09:00
common tadao, you could atleast show some respect, these people are taking the time to try to help you with your project. even if you dont respect their critiques, take their comment and just work from them dont cut these people down. otherwise your just going to be working on your own without criticism. (but maybe all you want is complements) and if that the case thats fine but dont waste these peoples time by asking for criticism your not going to use.anyway it is a awesome looking project and it really was great to look at, i only wish the comments made hadnt ruined the project for me
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