View Full Version : priv house - Warsaw, Poland
Hi!
I'm new here - it's my first post.
This is small project that I'm working on now. It's private house, that was build between World Wars. Now it is very "devastated" by the ... owner - he build garage, some aditional rooms on ground floor, big staircase and one more floor... It looks awfull now - see the pictures.
He wants me to do rebuild (correct me, if that is wrong word - my english isn't perfect) project. It must be in modern style - he show me some other nearby buildings.
Pictures of current look...
... and some of my ideas:
takesh h
24-06-2006, 07:25
yaduhin,
if it's a real project, try not eliminate rain gutters and antennas on the roof in your scheme.
If you don't take them into consideration, they will sooner or later come back to eat your project up just as badly.
Looks like you covered all brick work with new finish but is this neccesary?
Brickwork can be so beautiful if treated properly, look at Siza's works.
Tell us more about the program, what your client wants more specifically, and your design intentions.
yaduhin,
if it's a real project, try not eliminate rain gutters and antennas on the roof in your scheme.
If you don't take them into consideration, they will sooner or later come back to eat your project up just as badly.
Looks like you covered all brick work with new finish but is this neccesary?
Brickwork can be so beautiful if treated properly, look at Siza's works.
Tell us more about the program, what your client wants more specifically, and your design intentions.
some of my thoughts too takesh... by the way yaduhin, welcome to PPB and glad to see a new participant...
I am glad you posted those sketch images but I am having a hard time understanding what was existing and what was new in them... I know that your english may not be too strong but don't worry about that... I won't, and others shouldn't, judge your work on that...
can you explain your design a little? am curious, as takesh mentioned as to the clients needs for this addition and what your ideas/concepts are behind what you have shown us...
GinSoakedBoy
24-06-2006, 13:45
I was trying to figure out the logic of the house before understanding your schemes. My doubt is why is that round cilinder there?
I was wondering the same. Can you post floorplans?
The house looks huge!
Ok. You have right: to understand that building, floor plans are neccessery:
ground floor (http://www.artevis.pl/ppb/human/floor0.jpg)
first floor (http://www.artevis.pl/ppb/human/floor1.jpg)
second floor (http://www.artevis.pl/ppb/human/floor2.jpg)
That round "something" have radius about 165cm and isn's removable - house owner wants it for ... shower on ground level. I cannot persuade him to "destroy" it. That part marked blue on floor palns is old building. The rest is build by the house owner without an architect... and without any taste.
I agree with others, Yahudin, we simply need some more information. Why is the owner doing a remodel, what are you hoping to achieve?
It looks from the floor plans that the living area is on the first floor, and the office space is on second. Is that typical where you live? It is the opposite from typical work/live buildings in US, where it is commerical on ground floor/ living above.
I still don't have it clear. The floor plans are of the current state the house is in or what you have proposed?
sigue2000
26-06-2006, 20:39
The new and old are defined in the plans.
Parts of the house marked blue are old building plans. Rest is builded by the owner, without an architect. There is no my project on it, yet.
coral: Yes, in Poland commercial space is placed on ground floor too. Current functions are random, in my opinion (for example, in garage is located car-repair service). Living space on ground floor - owner wants to "live in the garden", as he says.
My task:
Generally, owner wants to maximize (?) living space in bulding. Possibly, commercial functions will be removed from there in future. He wants to achieve some modern look of the building.
I guess if the client wants to maximize living space, and the first floor is living space, I would say the first step would be to move the commercial space to third floor and let the living space expand onto the second floor.
And I agree with Takesh that you don't need to cover all the brick up just to make it seem more modern.
Juan Gomez-Velez
28-06-2006, 06:27
yaduhin
Some comments
Making something new out of something old is both challenging and frustrating and in general, very, very difficult. This usually means looking at something as it stands and trying to see it in a different way, striving to make it better, at least in your client's eyes.
I feel for one that you have accomplished it here.
This is a very unassuming and modest proposal, with a great deal of thought behind it and an ingenious approach to building volumes, materials and use of surfaces. As this is a climate very different to mine, your enclosure and choice of finishes is something that feel I cannot comment on out of personal knowledge and experience. I do feel that you have been very intentional, you seem to have done everything for a reason. I for one feel that you achieved coherence and a sense of balance in the way you've matched up the volumes.
One question
Had you the chance, what would you change and why?
By the way, I particularly like your terraces.
Thank you for sharing
Saludos
Juan
Francesco
28-06-2006, 09:09
Looks like you covered all brick work with new finish but is this neccesary?
Brickwork can be so beautiful if treated properly, look at Siza's works.
T
Hello.
I agree with the bricks comment, but in some cases it's difficult and expensive to keep brickworks. I noticed here (photo 1) at least two kinds of bricks and some stucated faces with ugly cement.
I guess, too, that there's to deal with the Polish weather : the best way is to add insulation outside the wall and then apply a cladding.
... and thanks for sharing, Yaduhin.
Uhm... Sorry for delay with replying to your comments - my laptop was stolen and I lost my work. Now I have new one, and I must to redo all projects that I'm working on...
sorry to hear that......the same happened to me 3days before a design hand-in at uni. i literally had 2,5 days to work up what i had lost. the actual project took a little under 5weeks to complete ans i had no time to complete and recover the full presentation..South Africa is such a great country with so much potential,but occasionaly crime does get the better of us.
i agree with juan,terraces give the building character and quality outdoor space. is there any possible way of linking them up-the two from the street front?
WilsonMetry
22-07-2006, 18:43
Uhm... Sorry for delay with replying to your comments - my laptop was stolen and I lost my work. Now I have new one, and I must to redo all projects that I'm working on...
Very very sorry to hear that. I've been a victim before and it realy gets to me down deep. Sucks big time. One good thing, when I have lost my work, I'm always pleasently surprised how much I recall and how fast I can redraw it.
Good luck. I'm liking the way the building is coming along. There are some good suggestions from the other members.
A friend of mine, forum goer "TOM" says that "to be a real man, you don't make backups" :D .
I like the design.. but, I'm not sure of the grass on the terrace (2nd floor), because. from the real photos of the house you posted, I can see lots of snow around there.. and, I think it'd be difficult to take care of that grass with those amounts of snow.
-I'd think of some sort of awning over the main entrance.. (for the snowing issue again) or the snow will fall and accumulate at the door.
I'm not sure if the word is ''awning''.. but I think you get the idea.
All I can think about is the snow now.. lol.. since I'm back from a snowboarding trip hehe..
woh i like your project! well i like it because very simple
Let it be white altogether.
isha_cca
08-11-2006, 04:42
hey yaduhin...great work:clap:
i like the front elevation ...the balance of masses, colors , lines and material is grrrrrrrrrrrreat...but somehow the magic vanishes as u go around the building.....
but seriously great work:rock on:
Warsaw? Where it is? :)
Anyway, design is very nice.
vBulletin® v3.7.3, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.