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aca
14-08-2005, 12:54
why Hello there,
for my first post ever I thought it would be interesting to post some of the stuff that I saved from pushpullbar 1.

I am gonna post a teaser now, cause I cant find the other stuff at the moment, and I should be studying in stead of surfing the net :( .

I cant remember who said this ( i know now that it was swank-e, see below), but I thought it was a good confrontation with the reality of presenting a project. So I saved it
Here it goes



“when i tutor, i set it VERY clear at the start of the design project for my students, and also during the design process... that... YOU ONLY HAVE 5-10 MINUTES TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING YOU HAVE THOUGHT OF IN YOUR DESIGN FOR THE WHOLE SEMESTER at the end of the semester.

that is how it works really, especially with competitions, being able to give a verbal presentation is already a HUGE luxury, not to mention some judges pausing to take a better look rather than a quick glance.

that is not to say that design is all about some superficial sexy presentation graphics, but rather, the presentation SHOULD tell what are all these 'stories' and 'ideas' about your design and how your SCHEME lives up to these ideas by the way you draw people's attention to that special 'message' or 'concepts' in you design by carefully planning your presentation. yesterday i forced my final year students to start working out the presentation 3 weeks before it is due and we had a whole 5 hours of non-stop crit on just presentation ideas alone!!

often students (and i used to be like that too) waste too much time trying to resolve absoltely everything in a design scheme that is irrelavent in relationship to the 'bigger picture' of the design scheme, such as wasting 6 hours detailing the toilet blocks in a huge building with thicknesses to toilet partitians and drawing everything (a danger when using CAD because you zoom right in and get lost in the micro details such as toilets). see it from our perspective... we have 5-15 minutes to quickly SEE what your scheme is and WHY your scheme is living up to what you are saying it is, then your drawings should be guiding us though these IMPORTANT things in your design rather than a generic nothing, slapped together in the last 3 hours before presentation time because you haven't been working out WHAT to present and WHAT to produce as drawings, nor were there any refinement and testing if these drawings communicate the things you are trying to say (without verbally saying it, but via your architecture+presentation)

presentation is not stopping your design, but rather getting to a stage where you have to evaluate what you have and what is good about your design, see it for youself and crit yourself as to what is important and what is hindering that 'goodness' (maybe because you are trying to cram in too many ideas!) and then focus on continuing resolving things, such as a particular section that you want to show, you resolve the drawing and what to show about the design (such as light, texture, how people use it, views, solar access, light and shade, construction technique etc etc) as much as you can and that is a drawing where you are still continuing your design, but its something that's going to send a clear message about the scheme and if you look more in details (because it looks amazing), you see the more complex ideas and issues you are dealing with, such as the use of people in the drawings and the way they are placed, where they are placed and what they are doing, all tells a story without you having to explain it. (see renzo piano's sections!!)

ok, i feel i am rambling after a long day...”

I hope this is the right place to post this,
if not feel free to delete.

I have a list with sketchup tutorials that I think I got from ppb,
Should I start a new thread, or post it in this one?

And if other people have more tips, for presentations, maybe they could post them here

Cheers

aca

SWANK-E
14-08-2005, 13:50
welcome, that was me

btw, i am going to move this thread to a more suitable location.

thanks for saving it.

aca
14-08-2005, 13:56
ok no problem, i wasn't sure were to post... :o
so thats one question answered,
What about the list with tutorials, should I wait for the person who wrote it, to post it, or should I post it?

SWANK-E
14-08-2005, 14:01
was it wrong of me to post it?

hell no! that's very considerate of you :not worth

What about the list with tutorials, should I wait for the person who wrote it, to post it, or should I post it?

Well, this is titled Tips for presenting a project. If you were to post the tutorials, it would be in the SketchUp section of the forum. If you didn't come up with the tutorials in the first place, it would be good to reference/acknowledge the person who did.

Thanks for participating. :cheers:

aca
14-08-2005, 14:02
i cant remember who wrote it :bang head but maybe others might know
edit to say that i think i found the name of the writer

anyways, maybe you guys have tips for students, what not to do,...

JesseJacob
14-08-2005, 15:17
Ahh, I remember this.

It was a reply to a comment I made. Its good to re-read this now..

JesseJacob
14-08-2005, 15:22
'aca' do you have the whole thread?, it would be good to look at all of it again.

aca
14-08-2005, 15:42
no, unfortunally not, :(

i just saved this as a reminder for myself , to reread once in a while, when i start losing myself in details.