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mjl
22-06-2006, 22:39
Designed and constructed between 1969 and 1978, the Brion Monumental Tomb in San Vito d'Altivole near Treviso as described by the architect, Carlo Scarpa:

"A person had died, in Italy, and his family wished to commemorate the life of a man who had made his way up from the street, or as we say, from the 'mess-kit', meaning, from the ranks; a man who had become important through his work. [...]
I would have been completely satisfied with a hundred square meters to work in, but instead there were twenty-two hundred square meters. The owner certainly had to build an enclosure wall! [...] So I built what you have seen.
I decided to put the tomb here, the sarcophagi, one might say. For the tomb, a place in the glorious sunlight, and here: panoramic vision. The deceased had asked to be near the earth, because he had been born in this place. And so I decided to build a little arch, which I shall call the 'arcosolium' ('arcosolium' is a Latin term used by the early Christians). In the catacombs, important personages or martyrs were buried in a more expensive manner, which was referred to as the 'arcosolium': it was nothing more than a simple arch, like this. It is lovely than two people who loved each other during their lives on earth should bend one toward the other to exchange greetings in death. They could not have been erect because that is the position of soldiers. This became an arch, a bridge: a bridge made of reinforced concrete, an arch made of reinforced concrete would have remained a bridge; in order to eliminate this sensation of a bridge, it was necessary to decorate it, to paint the vault. Instead I used mosaic, which is in the Venetian tradition, interpreted in my own manner, which is a different manner.
The great lane of cypress of trees which leads to the cemetery is in the Italian tradition: it is a journey of course. Architects are full of journeys. This course is called 'propylaeum;' it means door in Greek, entrance, this is the portico. One begins from here: these two eyes are the vision. [...]
In order to justify the enormous space, I thought that it might be useful to have a little temple to make it more funereal, funeral is such a horrible word! Still too big; so then we raised the terrain so that I could see out. From here I can see out and from outside no one can see in.
And so: tomb, family members, relatives, little temple, altar. [...] Here a private lane leading to a pavilion on the water, the only private object: this in brief, is all.
The place of the dead has the feeling of a garden.[...] I wanted, however, to render the natural sense of the concept of water and field, water and earth: water is the source of life."

(From P. Duboy, "Scarpa/Matisse:cruciverba," in F. Dal Co, G. Mazzariol (eds.), Carlo Scarpa: Opera Completa, Milan, Electa, 1984, pgg. 170-171).

This must be a difficult translation; however, it does effectively capture an idiosyncratic method of describing architecture--not far from the architects's colored pencil drawings. (See Carlo Scarpa a Castelvecchio (http://www.archiviocarloscarpa.it/web/disegni.php?lingua=e))


Getting there: I cannot help you with this as I do not remember how I found my way there; these numbers were found on the internet, I am not sure if they are reliable.

Cemetary Attendant: Marcolin Giuseppe Tel. 0423 564200 Mobil +39 340 2332716, Via Lovigioni, 30 - 31030 San Vito d'Altivole (TV) Opening times: 8 - 20 from 1 April to 30 September and 8 - 17.30 from 1 October to 31 March


The following photos were taken with a Canon RebelXT. I am not an architect and perhaps looking for different objects than you in built work; forgive me if I do not move through the building as an architect. If you have any questions about the work please do not hesitate to ask.

This will mark my first post on PPB, though I have been reading most parts of the forum for about a year; to those in charge, and those who contribute, congratulations on a remarkable achievement.

M

Just to complement your post, here is the .kmz location, unfortunantely low -res but with the street names (turn "streets" on).
It is located in a small town called San Vito d'Altivole , about 30 km to the north west of Treviso, on the 30 of Via Lovigioni, a 1km street.
PRIMO

mjl
22-06-2006, 22:47
Approach, "the great lane of cypress trees:"

mjl
22-06-2006, 22:51
A step to the left, fields and enclosure wall:

mjl
22-06-2006, 22:54
Enclosure wall:

mjl
22-06-2006, 22:59
Exterior Entry, concrete slider, towards chapel:

mjl
22-06-2006, 23:02
Material detail, ! :

mjl
22-06-2006, 23:20
At this point you would be expected to move towards the pond and chapel, the family members' graves or towards the arcosolium. However, we will move towards the second entrance from the Cemetary, the propylaeum and "eyes" in view:

mjl
22-06-2006, 23:39
I apologise for the quality of this plan but it was all I could find. Notice the distinctive L shaped geometry as well as the use of 90 and 45 degree angles to establish a definite hierarchy. In person, this sense of order contributed to one of the most overpowering experiences I have ever felt before a work.

mjl
22-06-2006, 23:45
Still within the cemetary, moving alongside the the enclosure wall towards Carlo Scarpa's grave and the third entrance (cemetary to chapel). Notice the arcosolium in the background.

mjl
22-06-2006, 23:50
Carlo Scarpa's grave; I believe, though am not sure, that it was designed by Tobia Scarpa.

mjl
22-06-2006, 23:57
Cemetary to Chapel entry:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:02
Back towards Scarpa's grave and gap in enclosure wall:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:08
Chapel entry, the large screen revolves or a smaller door opens, and landscape:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:11
Entry detail with view inside chapel:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:17
As you enter the chapel, font:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:19
Chapel interior:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:23
Altar and dome:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:25
Small windows are all operable, view out:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:29
Panels behind altar are also operable:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:34
Behind the chapel there is the pond which wraps around into the entry space and a small garden; exterior view from there:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:36
Pond, panels, arcosolium in distance:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:41
From small garden area along interior of enclosure wall:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:52
From here we move around the water onto a green, and look towards the Chapel exterior:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:56
Behind, the family members:

mjl
23-06-2006, 00:58
Family plots, interior:

mjl
23-06-2006, 01:00
Color and light:

mjl
23-06-2006, 01:03
Looking back towards the chapel entry; notice the detail underneath the steps!:

mjl
23-06-2006, 01:06
Turning back around, the famous and/or stairs/seat:

mjl
23-06-2006, 01:09
And back to the second entry and propylaeum:

mjl
23-06-2006, 01:11
Detail:

mjl
23-06-2006, 01:14
Along the propylaeum, behind us is the entry to the water pavilion:

mjl
23-06-2006, 01:15
Water pavilion with labyrinth cross:

mjl
23-06-2006, 01:17
Arcosolium:

mjl
23-06-2006, 01:20
Sarcophagi:

mjl
23-06-2006, 01:21
"Painted vault:"

mjl
23-06-2006, 01:24
Perforated corner of enclosure wall:

mjl
23-06-2006, 01:26
End. Once again, if there are any questions or requests for further documentation I would be glad to help.

GinSoakedBoy
23-06-2006, 01:37
Before anything, you showed me something great that i didnīt even heard of. THANK YOU!
This seems so peacefull... I still have to observe the photos longer, i need to soak all this to have any coherent doubts...
I was trying to find it at google earth but i failed miserably. =(

takesh h
23-06-2006, 02:55
Contrary to what GinSoakedBoy said, I knew this architecture, till I saw these photos...then I thought "I didn't know Brion Vega!":eek:
Your photos recreate the journey through the space, when in need, with a help of some texts. Together they complete the experience.
I have seen better photos elsewhere of course, the grave is one of favorite destinations of architects' travel.
However I haven't seen better representations of this "journey".
It was a great insight that you started the seriese with "the great lane of cypress of trees". :rock on: :rock on:
As Alvaro Siza put it, you are an architect when you know how to see things...don't have to be licensed.
Thank you so much for posting these photos on pushpullbar. I suspect you are hiding more photos on other pieces...:wondering

BruceWalker
23-06-2006, 03:03
This is very famous architecture.

Thankyou mjl - this is the most descriptive photo tour I've seen of this work

primocordara
23-06-2006, 03:07
Thanks for this great contribution to PPB!
I just edited your first post to complete location info.

takesh h
23-06-2006, 03:32
some more references;
Detailed plan (http://marcie.iuav.it/DARC/brion.php)
Fototeca (http://fototeca.cisapalladio.org/web/opere_scheda.php?valo=i_6_157)
Arcaid (http://www.arcaid.captureweb.co.uk/feature.asp?JobNo=3854-)
BTW Scarpa died in Tokyo while he was visiting a construction site here, fell from a scaffolding.

SWANK-E
23-06-2006, 03:33
Yes, that is the grave of Carlo Scarpa. I have a photo of that somewhere. I have to scan it though

imasayer
23-06-2006, 06:00
Fantastic post! I have only seen black and white's of this one. Thanks for the rare detail shots! Choice!:rock on:

mjl
23-06-2006, 07:18
Thank you Primocordara for the GE marker and Takesh for the additional references. Perhaps the detailed plan should be here as well:

franjayo
23-06-2006, 14:19
Thanks for the excellent photos of this great work.

A great site on Scarpa:

http://www.carloscarpacentenario.it/

An exhibition that just opened on Scarpa's work:

CARLO SCARPA. DISEGNI MAI VISTI
Lo spazio dell'abitare 1931-1963

27 maggio - 2 luglio 2006
Museo Andersen
via P.S. Mancini 20 ROMA

http://www.darc.beniculturali.it/ita/appuntamenti/mostre/scarpa_2.htm

primocordara
23-06-2006, 14:36
Thank you Primocordara for the GE marker and Takesh for the additional references. Perhaps the detailed plan should be here as well:
Wow, do you have a cad file? If so, can you share it?
I'd be tempted to model it...
:rock on:

jparchitectus
23-06-2006, 14:57
Scarpa :not worth

GinSoakedBoy
23-06-2006, 16:15
Wow, do you have a cad file? If so, can you share it?
I'd be tempted to model it...
:rock on:
Primo i think that mjl got that image from the first link that Takesh posted...

primocordara
23-06-2006, 16:58
Primo i think that mjl got that image from the first link that Takesh posted...
cool, but its an imposible task, thousands of documents!

joHanneum Z
07-06-2007, 16:08
Carlo Scarpa has a great sense for building in an existing surroundings.

As his "most important buildings"- list show:
* aleration:) Gallerie dell'Accademia in Venedig - 1944-1949
* alteration:) Palazzo Querini Stampalia in Venedig - 1949-1956
* Gipsoteca del Canova in Possagno - 1956-1957
* Museo di Castelvecchio in Verona - 1958-1964
* Olivetti-shop in Venice - 1959
* Negozio Gavina in Bologna - 1961
* Extension:) of cemetery and tomb Brion in San Vito d'Altivole - 1970-1973
* Banca Popolare di Verona - 1974
* Casa Ottolenghi in Bardolino - 1974-1978


Also seen 2004 his: tomb Brion in San Vito d'Altivole.
He has really a great, nice sense for architecture.

joHanneum Z
07-06-2007, 16:10
His play with details and his sense for them...

joHanneum Z
07-06-2007, 16:12
his sense for space...

joHanneum Z
07-06-2007, 16:13
...Brioni-nice views

joHanneum Z
07-06-2007, 16:14
his play with levels...

joHanneum Z
07-06-2007, 16:18
a special way to a meditation space (water is around it, your view is "closed"there just for the space-walls in eyeheight around) with a special vertical door situation inside...:)

joHanneum Z
07-06-2007, 16:20
the cementary tomb for a young couple- the symbol for marriage1

joHanneum Z
07-06-2007, 16:22
the cementary tomb for the young couple

gorgon
08-06-2007, 04:12
His play with details and his sense for them...

Anyone got any idea how the waterproofing is working on his concrete encased pond? What is the image in post 52 showing joHanneum?

Kristov Krusjev
08-06-2007, 14:07
If my memory serves me correctly then it is showing the pond from inside the chapel. Been a few years since I was there though.

joHanneum Z
08-06-2007, 14:28
yeah. it shows the pond from inside the chapel. you are right.
//
I didn`t mean with "sense for detail" technical details, but details in forms, detail which often come again in his work. Here you often see these detailed wallparts, like vertical put up stairs, nearly everywhere. On the tomb, on walls, on the wall to the way to the medititaion area,...in the pond, forming the space of the pond...

joHanneum Z
08-06-2007, 14:30
The waterproofing in the concrete encased pond?- I didn`t ask my self, but it`s a good question. I think it`s the same waterproof concrete system used like in swimming pools...

disturbanist
14-06-2008, 01:14
I visited the cemetery last year on the same trip where I saw Fuksas' "Bolle."

Here are some of my photos...

First some contextual shots.

The approach (looking back)

disturbanist
14-06-2008, 01:17
The greater context and the adjoining cemetery

disturbanist
14-06-2008, 01:18
The entrance to Scarpa's creation

disturbanist
14-06-2008, 01:20
Inside the entrance gate

disturbanist
14-06-2008, 01:27
The pond and pavilion

disturbanist
14-06-2008, 01:29
A detail

disturbanist
14-06-2008, 01:34
A frame for the afternoon light

disturbanist
14-06-2008, 01:35
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disturbanist
14-06-2008, 01:39
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