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jcruiz
20-05-2006, 10:37
A little project I made last year for the Chincolco village elementary school is finished with some few changes. Hope you dont send me to the drawing board. It`s too late:)

jcruiz
20-05-2006, 10:39
Pic 2

jcruiz
20-05-2006, 10:43
The structure is made with reinforced brick wall, and reinforced concrete beams.
Original asbestos channel was changed by steel roofing.

jcruiz
20-05-2006, 10:46
The finished bath room, not so different than projet.

jcruiz
20-05-2006, 10:47
Final view from the other side

jcruiz
20-05-2006, 10:50
pic 6

Marr
20-05-2006, 11:03
First thing that strikes me is that the roof of the new building seems to be uncomfortably close to the roof of the existing building. Would seem more natural to me either to separate the 2 completely or connect them completely.

jcruiz
20-05-2006, 11:11
It was imposible to separate both buildings because in the back side, the ground level is about 2 meters lower. In the other side, it was very difficult to conect the two roofs because the older one was framed with prefabricated steel structures now out of market.

Marr
20-05-2006, 11:56
But by choosing to have a rather large roof overhang you make the two roofs almost touch eachother. If you would have left the overhang out, this problem wouldn't be there. Just my opinion of course. :cheers:

Marr
20-05-2006, 12:01
Also I dont think the large overhanging roof does the building any favors visually. It's a simple service building and would have been much better off with a less dramatic roof.

chedda
20-05-2006, 13:03
Also I dont think the large overhanging roof does the building any favors visually. It's a simple service building and would have been much better off with a less dramatic roof.

I think the windows are ideally placed and just catch the light i hope this was calculated because from the photos it seems perfect at this time of day. Very colourfull images, as always from s.america (perhaps desaturate) A good example of sketchup in action although not the most glamorous function !:D

Pedro Barradas
20-05-2006, 21:35
Jcruiz, you are going to excuse me, but the roof of that building itīs out of porportion and for shure, was possible to make it a more simple and slim as eaved roof like the school building.

Another issue is, if the bathrooms are to be acessed with ramps, how come you planned the ground level at a such high level...

Not to mention the finnishes details (for shure not controled by yourself) the steps, who are covered with mosaic (slippery and with sharp edges).

I undestand however, the budget constrains of this building, but I feel that you could do better... :(

jcruiz
20-05-2006, 21:50
That long roof overhang was not in the original project, (see the model).
The ramp was made anyway. And the finishing skills are`nt so bad in comparison with which the ones are seen commonly by here.

Pedro Barradas
20-05-2006, 22:10
That long roof overhang was not in the original project, (see the model).
The ramp was made anyway. And the finishing skills are`nt so bad in comparison with which the ones are seen commonly by here.

You are right Jcruiz, who build it, increase the original roof mass....

Regarding the all project, and analizing your original SU images, I find that the building was not planned to insert in that location, but in place without that building proximity. (not the photomontage)

Without being picky whit the choosen materials, I'm just saying that the steps were not done with proper materials, and in first place you should be concerned with that raised ground floor at the begining of the plans... so handicaped acessibility is an important issue in school buildings.

Of course legislation varies from country to country, but there are common concerns... :)

PS: We now have fibercement asbestos free.

ReD
20-05-2006, 22:20
It must be nice to have such relaxed building regulations & controls .. here in UK we would not have such a direct view into the toilet areas & would be forced to have a lobby entrance or screen .. ramps would be min 1:12 or 1:15with rails both sides & turning platform at head .. Wheelchair wc cubicles either shared or one each for both Senors & Senoritas

jcruiz
21-05-2006, 06:20
You are right Jcruiz, who build it, increase the original roof mass....

Regarding the all project, and analizing your original SU images, I find that the building was not planned to insert in that location, but in place without that building proximity. (not the photomontage)

Without being picky whit the choosen materials, I'm just saying that the steps were not done with proper materials, and in first place you should be concerned with that raised ground floor at the begining of the plans... so handicaped acessibility is an important issue in school buildings.

Of course legislation varies from country to country, but there are common concerns... :)

PS: We now have fibercement asbestos free.

According to our local regulations, the disabled toilets must be constructed in other spaces, with different dimensions. For this project, were not contemplated in the program, for that reason the inclines were not project from the beginning. Here, asbestos are not permited
, from about ten years ago.

franjayo
21-05-2006, 06:57
Jc,

Thanks for sharing these colorful images, it is very interesting. If this is intended to be a model to be repeated in other schools, comments can be useful to improve the model.

Juan Gomez-Velez
27-05-2006, 18:10
Juan Carlos

It is good to see work done, particularly in behalf of school children, clients who we rarely care to hear from.

Simple, clean, straightforward work. One question, would have been could we have caught the rainwater from the higher roof and channeled it down? The small space between the structures will probably be always wet. Just a thought. We know that as an experienced builder, you do as much as you can with the means at hand.

A pleasure to hear from you my friend, please let yourself be seen ( " dejate ver" as we say in spanish) your photos, your comments and insight are missed.

Saludos

Juan

jcruiz
27-05-2006, 21:35
Thanks for your words my dear friend. Probably you all are right, I could have done more to integrate both buildings. I simplified too much the problem, but it is also necessary to consider, that rain is not an issue here. Annual precipitations are about to 300 mm/sqm or less.

mseif_99
24-06-2006, 19:22
i missed this one....
very nice and simple design...on feels glad when the drawings arent so different from the actual built project...but dont these people use mirrors at the basins..!!!!!!!....:confused: :confused:

superjim
30-08-2006, 15:13
Its a always nice to see an example of sketchup used as a design tool and having images of the final project to compare it to. However its a very simple programme architecturally and I feel that by trying to make some kind of statement with this large overhanging roof you have made what essentially should have been a small simple and possibly elegent build into what appears to be somewhat of a top heavy anomaly. :confused: