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I’m having some problems figuring out how to deal with this design.
Taks:
- House for a *blind* man and his wife (maybe also preserve a place for kids)
- Dance Studio (min 100m²) height min 5m
- 2 Guest houses for a dancer.
- Passage way for the firetruck (min 4m and 4m heigh)
I already made a couple of designs but none really *great* and *interesting* enough.
Only the last one (cfr. Design x) I find rather interesting.
Reason why I post this: I would like to get feedback and critics from the ppb² members. The crits I received so far weren’t really constructive ;). That’s why I’m still in looking for a concept situation after 3 weeks :s.
Updated.. I posted my results at page 2 and 3.
Thanks a lot for all the comments on the pre-design state:cheers:
The environment.
Location : City of Gent. Between 2 walls. At the back there’s the parking space of our school.
Site: 16.6m width , length: +- 30m
looking to model from south side
(north is on the left side of the model)
first design, not really with a concept. Only using the existing diagonal line.
I decided I wanted to make the building accesseble for everyone, so also for wheelchair users.
So I tough using the slanted planes for viewing at the dance studio and for the circulation
The slanted planes were usefull to create a certain movement in the design.
Another little *concept* with slanted planes
At this point I reallised it wasn't really *handy* to use the slanted planes.
==> a little study inbetween.. not really usable for the task
Now I did a shadow study. So I would steel the sun of the neigbours.
The perfect volume without stealing the sun in
8.40m heigh and 11.40m with.
This following quite liked. (also my last so far)
I started from a dancing couple. Using the legs as supports for the building.
Wit the volumes I wanted to express the intertwined bodys of a dancing couple.
I tried to hide the heigt of the dancing studie by placing it inside the large horizontal volume.
I also tried to created a dancing studie where you can look outside without having much troubles with the sun.
the columns need to big lighter and more in different angle's. so you really get a play of column in different ways.
merengue
12-05-2006, 19:02
Hi Tim !
Just a few questions. The dancing studie is a dancing school? I mean, how much people are visiting/using the studie at same time? is something public?.
thank you for leting me understanding a bit more. :cheers:
Only 10- 15 people will visit to view a personal show. Like close friends,..
It's for 5-6 dancers. (not a school!)
imasayer
12-05-2006, 19:30
Tim,
I think you are off to a great start. I like the concept of basing the form on a couple dancing. The columns as legs works well, I can see that. However, the massing is not working yet to fit with your concept. I think that in order to achieve what you are talking about with the massing your are going to have to create some tension between 2 forms. The columns are dynamic and convey a sense of motion, your forms do not do that yet.
See Fred and Ginger. I don't want to get into a discussion about Gehry in this thread, but I feel that he did achieve this tension between two objects that I am referring to, along with a sense of motion of two dancers. (maybe this reference is a little too obvious, but it is the first project I thought of) I am not encouraging you to do something biomorphic, just an example.
merengue
12-05-2006, 20:43
Tim, I think that you are making a good aproach to your building.
Grouping activities and functions - you did it quite well. there are two parts in this proyect the living one and the dancing one. As far as I see the correct aproach.
The sun study - I like it very much (is there a regulation on not stealing the sun to others?) The hole building is generous to both neighbours. Talking about sun and even in morfology.
And you let the sun in, in almost every interior space.(good point. As far as I´ve been reading on the net Ghent doesn´t have much of it).
Fire truck access- guaranteed. (is that a regulation too?)
in the other hand
I was thinking, Maybe too much stairs for a blind man. I´m not an expert on this topic so is just a question.
What about rain? Pictures on the net shows sloped roofs where ever you see. That must mean something. you can consider an inverted sloped roof (a modern option, if you don´t fancy the traditional ones).
The dancing building- mmm... sorry. As imasayer said I don´t want to start a discussion, but I personally think that you don´t need that crap, your aproach is strong enough. in the oder hand I agree with the column variations. But just because of the ludic expression of the diferent intercolumn gaps. (nothing to do with the Gehry thing :puke: ).
Just a view.
sorry about my english. :cheers: good luck
A_Minima
12-05-2006, 21:07
I think you could give much more power to your study if you tried to manage the organisation , the views (from and to)... in a relationship between your project and its imediate and less imediate surrounding.
We can imagine what happen the street long. But what whith the rear of the site ? Is it a low or high rise environment ? And then could you manage terrasses and other exterior roof spaces...
You dance to SHOW and you go to the representation to LOOK.
ah...another st.lucas post...i've already heard some discussions over this project...
and st.lucas goes crazy on this one...dancing "school" and home for a blind marocan, steeling the views from the african museum....
first question...euh...which teacher do you have...just out of personal intrest...it seems stupid (and actually it is)...but when you are judged by one tutor (which probably is the case ) its always interesting to know...(modernist saelens...rational herman, spacy vallembois,...)
second...nice of you to give the neighbours some light ( i've seen some hideous projects for this assignment already) and i think the collumn idea could work...but i would give it a much greater impact...now the feel like something extra, due to the seemingly little weight and space they have to carry...and indeed..as you pointed out....the heigt / weight ratio is a little bit messed up right now...
third...second to the collumns idea, you could do more with tactile stuff...perhaps it's a bit cliché...but maybe you can "help", or better "adapt" your architecture so that the blind man "feels" "lives" the building more then he would in a normal building....
fourth....third week concept and bad crits...don't worry...plenty of time...
so keep up with the good work....and perhaps i'll see you around at school...
btw...johannes his concept looked quit interesting...(don't know if you know hilm...)
iooooooooo
Here is the result of this project.
I still used the "leggs" but took an other way to get to the volumes. (using a dancing couple)
large image (http://tim.dommel.be/1_vs-dwars+concept_A2.jpg)
large image (http://tim.dommel.be/2_plan-0_A2.jpg)
large image (http://tim.dommel.be/3_plan-1_A2.jpg)
large image (http://tim.dommel.be/4_vs-langs_A2.jpg)
I really like this section. I used CAD and Sketchup togheter. I quite pleased with the result
I used the steelframe panels again.large image (http://tim.dommel.be/5_technisch.jpg)
Some renders
large image (http://tim.dommel.be/6_renders.jpg)
Juan Gomez-Velez
06-06-2006, 15:00
Tim
I find this to be an excellent project, perhaps for reasons other than those you may imagine.
First, it is a first rate spatial exercise in section.
Secondly, your selection of a very simple and straightforward tectonic approach is very appropiate.
Thirdly, your crisscross parti allows for interest and intrigue along a street with a party wall to party wall typology.
You simply can't take it all in from a single point of view!, the project and the space it frames and encloses only reveals itself to us as we walk through it. I feel that your access and main circulation are not readily evident, a plus or a minus only dependant upon your ( or your tutor's) intention or expectations. Wright's circulations are contorted and almost undecipherable at times( think of Unity Temple, for example) so this is an issue that may lie fully within the realm of opinion ( as most architectural praise or criticism lies) .
I like your presentation, particularly your emphasis in the moving figure, for though your building envelope may seem to be tuxedo stiff, your spaces certainly are ballroom diva supple. A male and female conjuction.
Just an additional comment, your pointed triangular spaces or terraces are somewhat sketchy, as are your habitational spaces and you made a choice to keep the building in somewhat dark finishes. As most dance is a dialogue between sound and movement, most architecture is a dance between movement and light( time being the sea both swim in ). More light! would be my only cry. Still, the spaces and the building itself should be very interesting to see lit up at night.
My best wishes to you on your evaluation.
Saludos
Juan
I feel that your access and main circulation are not readily evident, a plus or a minus only dependant upon your ( or your tutor's) intention or expectations.
Well i quite like the central possition of the main circulation. Tutor also did. I think it's rather this or it's an "promenade architectural" :)
More light! would be my only cry.
True. I didn't expect it to be that dark :s.. i tought i would get more light from the 1.5m heigh windows above the 3m heigh wall around the dancing studio. The guest stays were a bit to much to put into the concept. So I couldn't create a large window recieving northern light at the top of the studio.
*offtopic*
We still make reall models :) it doesn't stop with the 3D models :)
merengue
08-06-2006, 17:26
An outstanding project acording to my view. Congatulations TIM ! .:clap:
Ican read a good amount of "freedom" in your way of designing and thinking. Thanks for shareing :cheers:
note: I agree with the light issue.
I think this really is a great project. What year are you in? I absolutely loved the collumns, I think it is so appropriate to the brief through its evocativeness and I don't know but I'm imagining if you couldn't see the dancing but felt the collumns, you would somehwat be experiencing the dance happening inside.
iooo,...
From your schemes to this...didn't imagine it would turn out this well...And it would work really well in the area...A major A+ i suppose?:clap:
The only thing i would spice'n up a little bit was the graphic presentation...but when i'm writing this i'm thinking it's propably one of the best in the second grade...so...don't mind...
Enjoy the exam's and hopefully we'll meet sometimes...iooo
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