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Marr
18-04-2006, 14:07
Project - Preliminary design of a Storage Hall

Location - Krambtangi, The faeroe islands

Type of project - Industrial

Although I'm still a student, I was lucky enough to be asked to do a sketch design for this Storage Hall on the Faeroe Islands. I'm doing the project for a small construction company in Iceland that wants to get into the Faeroese market. The procedure is as follows; The company sends in my sketch design along with a price-tag, and the clients chooses from our entry and other entries based on design, price, function etc. If the company gets the job, they are obliged to build it for the price tag given. I have no idea what to call this procedure in english, so that's why I'm giving the detailed explanation. Maybe some of the scandinavians can help me on that one, it's called "udbud" in Danish. And there is no requirement for anonymity, so I think I'm safe to post this on Pushpullbar.

Design parameters - A written brief with client requirements. The building is a storage hall on the harbor. It contains storage area, A freezer for fish, indoor parking, loading bays for trucks, Office/reception, dressing room, staff room, toilets.
The placement of the building was fixed and cost is a major factor.

Design approach - I wanted to give a building a "light" appearance and and to expose the construction. Daylight was also a major factor, as there is nothing worse IMO than working in a place without daylight as is the case in many Industrial buildings.
I placed the "closed functions" in a 2 story core in the south-east corner of the building, and the rest of the building is one big open space.
The construction is made of steel and the south and east facades are made of translucent polycarbonate multiwall to let the daylight in. Also it will make the building light up at nigh as a mini-landmark in the harbor. The other facades are made of prefabricated steel wall units.
I only had 5 days to do the whole thing so I had to keep it simple, but I'm pretty happy with the result.

Tools - Sketchup, Photoshop, InDesign

First, a picture from the site. The building will be placed where the white truck is parked
I did not take the picture myself but extracted it from a low-res video.

Marr
18-04-2006, 14:17
1/3 board

Marr
18-04-2006, 14:18
2/3

Marr
18-04-2006, 14:19
3/3

Marr
18-04-2006, 14:21
Exterior perspective

Marr
18-04-2006, 14:23
Interior perspective, hmmm not the most exiting image in the world

Marr
18-04-2006, 14:24
A rough site model

Marr
18-04-2006, 14:27
A section

Marr
18-04-2006, 14:28
another section, oops disregard the vercical thing to the left, it shouldn't be there, don't know where that came from and I'm too lazy to fix it now

Marr
18-04-2006, 14:34
The plan
1. Storage Hall
2. Parking
3. Freezer
4. Office
5. Tecnical
6. Storage
7. Dressing room
8. WC
9. Staff room /kitchen

Marr
18-04-2006, 14:37
That's it for now. Don't hold back on the comments

nandish
18-04-2006, 15:34
I like what i see.

For me its a totally worked out design, not very interested to look at though.
But its function is served.

As for the drawing, for me they look incomplete. Staircase is missing in the ground floor plan and also the detailing required in the rooms ie toilets etc.

Also some construction details like the staircase, roofing wont hurt.

Other than that pretty nice structure.

Best of luck anyways
adios

Brian T
18-04-2006, 16:08
Nice clean simple design!

imasayer
18-04-2006, 16:38
Not a bad little project. First of all I would think twice about exposing the steel structure, especially that close to salt water. It will be nice the first year then it will become a maintenance nightmare. Secondly, you canopy looks too low. It may be the perspective, but doors for trucks have to be pretty tall. Are you going to bring the engineer on board or is the owner?

primocordara
18-04-2006, 16:47
Simple yet functional and elegant design, I like it! Just wonder if a flat roof is ok in cold climate, I would have problems here with rain, so I imagine snow must be even worse, but have no experience with it ...
Polycabonate is extremely expensive here, wouldn't it be cheaper to use a few in the roof for lighting purposes ? This would look great if light at night!

Marr
18-04-2006, 16:54
I like what i see.

For me its a totally worked out design, not very interested to look at though.
But its function is served.

As for the drawing, for me they look incomplete. Staircase is missing in the ground floor plan and also the detailing required in the rooms ie toilets etc.

Also some construction details like the staircase, roofing wont hurt.

Other than that pretty nice structure.

Best of luck anyways
adios

Thanks. Unfortunatly there is no time for details at this stage, If we are lucky enough to get the job, then I will have the oppertunity to go into more details. Also i will need a lot of engeneering guidance since I am very inexperienced with real life buildings being a student. And in my school we learn very little about the tecnincal aspect. :bang head

p.s. how can I quote multiple people in one reply?

Marr
18-04-2006, 16:55
Nice clean simple design!

Thanks

Marr
18-04-2006, 17:01
Not a bad little project. First of all I would think twice about exposing the steel structure, especially that close to salt water. It will be nice the first year then it will become a maintenance nightmare. Secondly, you canopy looks too low. It may be the perspective, but doors for trucks have to be pretty tall. Are you going to bring the engineer on board or is the owner?

Thanks for the compliment.
You might be right about the steel. If the project goes ahead, I would have to make sure it is properly protected.
The doors are in the height requested by the cliant. Trucks are not supposed to drive into the building but park by the loading bay. Vans are supposed to drive into the building, and the doors are high enough for that.
I have been seeking advice from an engineer in designing this, and of course if the project goes ahead, I will need much more help. I'm not even qualified to be responsible for a design since I'mm still in school.

Marr
18-04-2006, 17:08
Simple yet functional and elegant design, I like it! Just wonder if a flat roof is ok in cold climate, I would have problems here with rain, so I imagine snow must be even worse, but have no experience with it ...
Polycabonate is extremely expensive here, wouldn't it be cheaper to use a few in the roof for lighting purposes ? This would look great if light at night![/


Thanks Primo. I am not worried about flat roofs at all. Since I was a little kid I've been working in the summer putting PVC sheeting on flat roofs in Iceland (where it rains and snows alot), so with the right waterproofing membrane, flat roofs are fine.

About the Polycarbonate, I thought that some luxury is necessary. I'd rather safe money somewhere else. To me the translucent facade is what would make this building just a little bit better than the average harbor warehouse. And I got the company who I made this for to go for it after some persuasion, so I really don't want to get rid of that. I'll fight to the death if they decide it's too expensive.

cacapis
18-04-2006, 17:14
I like the project too, but I also have my doubts about it.
First, comes insulation and environment concerns. What kind of goods will be stored there? Isnt there a need for insulation on roofs or walls?
I agree with Marcelo about the flat roof.
Next you need a design for the facade where the offices are. I don't think the polycarbonate multiwall will work there. You'll need windows and a wall that can protect you from the climate. I think that corner will play a key role in the design of the whole building, but I can't come up with any ideas now :S

p.s. how can I quote multiple people in one reply?
You have to copy the text and write the quote tags yourself.

Marr
18-04-2006, 17:22
I like the project too, but I also have my doubts about it.
First, comes insulation and environment concerns. What kind of goods will be stored there? Isnt there a need for insulation on roofs or walls?
I agree with Marcelo about the flat roof.
Next you need a design for the facade where the offices are. I don't think the polycarbonate multiwall will work there. You'll need windows and a wall that can protect you from the climate. I think that corner will play a key role in the design of the whole building, but I can't come up with any ideas now :S


You have to copy the text and write the quote tags yourself.

A polycarbonate multiwall insulates very well in fact, and you can install windows in it, as I have done in the office and the Staff room. See for yourself in this residental house in munchen (not exactly tropical climate) by Florian Nagler

primocordara
18-04-2006, 17:25
Polycarbonate is fine for me, just that is is prohibitevely expensive here!

cacapis
18-04-2006, 17:28
A polycarbonate multiwall insulates very well in fact, and you can install windows in it, as I have done in the office and the Staff room. See for yourself in this residental house in munchen (not exactly tropical climate) by Florian Nagler

Really nice. If it works for a house in Muenchen it should definitely work for a warehouse in Iceland.

Marr
18-04-2006, 17:29
To be honest, I don't have a clue how much it costs here. That's one of the thing the construction company is going to find out before they put a price tag to the project and bid. Hope it's not too expensive. I had so little time to do the project that I didn't have time to call around and ask about the price of stuff. Just kind of had to go by gut.

Polycarbonate is fine for me, just that is is prohibitevely expensive here!

Marr
18-04-2006, 18:53
Really nice. If it works for a house in Muenchen it should definitely work for a warehouse in Iceland.

Actually it is going to be placed in the Faroe Islands, not in Iceland.

shmoolikipod
18-04-2006, 19:04
So this is what you needed the Israeli plexiglass links for.......

Nicely made. Not the most breath taking project I have seen, but you could'nt do better than this...

very good

Pedro Barradas
18-04-2006, 19:49
Apart from technical aspects... to be revised if you get the job, I really like your project approach... and the SU output is very nice, clean and well presented. :rock on:

Marr
19-04-2006, 10:41
Thanks for the comments guys:rock on:

rambleon
20-04-2006, 14:36
i like your su output to, it looks very professional :cheers:

WilsonMetry
20-04-2006, 17:42
Marr,
Good job. I'm always a fan of simple.


oooo.....polycorbonate panels...I love em. Price not prohibitive here. I would like to have another opportunity to use them again.

Educational green house I did few years ago.

coral
20-04-2006, 18:02
Nice clean, simple box in rendering. In the real world, the details make all the difference. Some things to think about - How will the skin of the building meet the ground? How does the wall meet the roof? What exactly will that prominent awning look like? Where are you going to run electrical in the big storage area and to light the outside?
You have a strong start, but this is where the execution really matters.
Good luck, and congratulations on getting a commission this early in your career!

Marr
20-04-2006, 18:42
Marr,
Good job. I'm always a fan of simple.


oooo.....polycorbonate panels...I love em. Price not prohibitive here. I would like to have another opportunity to use them again.

Educational green house I did few years ago.

Looks good WilsonMetry:rock on: How about posting it on Pushpullbar

Marr
20-04-2006, 18:47
Nice clean, simple box in rendering. In the real world, the details make all the difference. Some things to think about - How will the skin of the building meet the ground? How does the wall meet the roof? What exactly will that prominent awning look like? Where are you going to run electrical in the big storage area and to light the outside?
You have a strong start, but this is where the execution really matters.
Good luck, and congratulations on getting a commission this early in your career!

You are absoloutly right. For a simple house like this the details are what determines success or failiure. So I am hoping that if the project goes ahead (which is not certain at all), I will be allowed to partitipate in the whole detailing process.

Anyway, The construction company held a meeting about the project, and decided they wanted to use a laminated wood construction instead of the steel for cost reasons. That means that the construction is going inside the facade so I am making those changes as we speak. But I get to keep the polycarbonate :rock on:
I will post the changes soon.

A_Minima
20-04-2006, 21:48
About the Polycarbonate, I thought that some luxury is necessary. I'd rather safe money somewhere else.
I made a lot of projects using polycarbonate sheets. You could use a wood frame structure (less expensive that steel frame in Europe and you have realy good wood material in Northern Europe). It's a way I use to equilibrate the polycarbonate cost. Here it's about (for at least 300mē of panels) 60euros per mē (without VAT but including system framing and handcrafting). If you don't use a wood frame but a d
steel frame, don't forget to paint it white (or one else but not black on the face contacting the polycarbonate cause it could damage it during summer periode)

Marr
20-04-2006, 22:55
I made a lot of projects using polycarbonate sheets. You could use a wood frame structure (less expensive that steel frame in Europe and you have realy good wood material in Northern Europe). It's a way I use to equilibrate the polycarbonate cost. Here it's about (for at least 300mē of panels) 60euros per mē (without VAT but including system framing and handcrafting). If you don't use a wood frame but a d
steel frame, don't forget to paint it white (or one else but not black on the face contacting the polycarbonate cause it could damage it during summer periode)

Thanks for sharing this info:not worth