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Temperary living arrangements for Roskilde Festival...
I recently got an assignment of quite an unfamiliar character. Usually on a landscape architect department, we really zoomed in, when we got this assignment. Briefly, we are to design an alternative to tents for the 30-year-old "i've-had-enough-of-the-mud-and-wanna-get-me-some-festival-comfort" :wondering
We were supposed to focus on flexibility, branding, transportational logistics, storage and economi. We had 2 days to come up with a new design, and here is my first sketchy attempt. This is actually the first time I've put the entertaining SketchUP tutorial lessons to use - so bare with me, guys :o
bedbox
I chose a "fold-out" concept, focussing on mobility.
Mobility in form of creating an alternative, wich is easy to distribute to the customers. Load them in the back of a truck and drive them right to them.
And mobility, in its organisation. I wanted to create an alternative to the tents, but with the same possibilities of the random, chaotic organisation of the tents.
The idea was a "fold-out box", containing the most necessary functions; bed, storage, ability to lock and keeping you dry :)
This is, as mentioned earlier, only 2 days of work - and thus only very preliminary sketches. The guys from the festival kinda liked the different ideas though - so we're most likely getting assignments for further detailing in the near future!
My first post! :cheers:
Kinda scared by all you guys' phenomenal work. You all seem SO talented! :) Really looking forward to some comments and inspiration from you all!
best regards, 2kemon
primocordara 11-02-2006, 02:56 First of all, welcome to the forum 2kemon!
Interesting and difficult assignment... I remember seeing some structures that could fold flat for transportation. this would save space...
Very interesting indeed.
I like the idea you proposed it's very appropiate for the purpose. Also the way you show it looks very cool.
Do you know what kind of materials/structure will they be made of and how will you join the pieces? It would be interesting to use some kind of extra insulation on the roof panel to avoid that sunny morning sauna-tent effect :D
Also I'd like to know how the door works. Opening downwards doesn't seem to be the most comfortable choice.
Lastly it would be interesting to provide some kind of curtain for privacy since they'll probably are going to be widely used for ocasional sex.
What is the blue glass like curve?
Tom
sigue2000 11-02-2006, 11:36 I like it. Good sketch of your idea. Try playing around with the branding to 'funky-fy' it ;) . Beer or condom brands seem apropriate.
Lastly it would be interesting to provide some kind of curtain for privacy since they'll probably are going to be widely used for ocasional sex.Very pragmatic approach. :rock on:
Also I'd like to know how the door works. Opening downwards doesn't seem to be the most comfortable choice.
Dito. Maybe it could fold out into a deck and the door could be behind it. check here --> O (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2865&postcount=7)
Check this mobile display box developed for Fairs and presentations --> O (http://www.modulbox.de/)
Or this Studenthousing for Munich --> O (http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/bildstrecke/49/54994/p0/?img=0.10#bild)
@primocordara
...my thought exactly! ;)
Being able to fold it in/out has actually been a key feature for me. There's still unsolved issues, but it can probably fold into about 240x120x36cm.
I don't really know why I didn't post this image last night? :wondering
...unfortunately I have to go to work now, but have read your comments and nice ideas, and will post some more images to reply your questions when I get back! :)
arrestme 11-02-2006, 13:58 Must you walk on the glass to get into this thing?? Wouldnt this be quite slippery when/if it rains?
jparchitectus 11-02-2006, 15:00 Must you walk on the glass to get into this thing?? Wouldnt this be quite slippery when/if it rains?
Or could the glass support you without breaking....
Hi guys...
I'm back from the longest work day EVER! ;)
I've worked a little on the design and implemented som of your good feedback!
The front obviously didn't work, but hopefully it will do better now..?
I've also played around with different ways of organizing several units together in camps and creating a distinction between private / semi-private and public spaces...
Please, keep the comments coming - I really do appreciate them all!
best regards, 2kemon
Yeah
For me the front door, hmmm, I think cacapis hinted at this being a comfort issue. I agree, comfort, privacy and how do you lift it closed while walking on it to pick up the outer edge then carefully walk backwards while lifting it? I think I put a bit more functionality into this element.
I like the way the unit stacks, how are they lifted?
But the door is looking a lot better now. Anyways I'm not sure about a transparent material for the door. There probably are better solutions with translucent materials that provide stronger bodies and better thermal comfort.
As it is now that tent thing could double as a courtain in front of the door.
dkidston 14-02-2006, 03:46 grouping, perspective
2kemon,
I love the idea of grouping of these things. All of a sudden I see a potential camping ground being taken over by this organism. Maybe if the awning was a little different shape this may happen a easier and also be able to group an infinite number. Top work. :rock on:
cheers
dk
Yeah
For me the front door, hmmm, I think cacapis hinted at this being a comfort issue. I agree, comfort, privacy and how do you lift it closed while walking on it to pick up the outer edge then carefully walk backwards while lifting it? I think I put a bit more functionality into this element.
I like the way the unit stacks, how are they lifted?
...the idea was to lift them in handles on front and back, but I haven't posted a drawing of that yet. I will soon, though.
I'm sorry, but I didn't fully understand the first part, though I still agree that the front needs more attention, also in regards of materials as cacapis mentioned.
As, for the grouping. I would very much like to partly keep the random organisation the tents give the festival, but I need to find a way to create more space with full height (2.20m)
again, thanks for all your comments!
...and cheers aussies! :cheers:
2kemon
arrestme 14-02-2006, 15:24 Why not just a normal tent? They are easy and light to transport, you can have them in any sizes, they dont need a completly flat surface to stand on, you can even have them with windows.
Why not just a normal tent?
Briefly, we are to design an alternative to tents for the 30-year-old "i've-had-enough-of-the-mud-and-wanna-get-me-some-festival-comfort" :wondering
Looks like you just ignored the whole thread
2kemon, this is an interesting idea.
I think the interstitial space between the units when grouped is excellent; but if the idea of this type of space is for comfort, I'd think about the height of the "awning" (for lack of a better term) at its peak and the placement of the supports for the "awning". My past experience with camping is that I could never fully stand up within the tent...I'd hate to not be able to have some relief right outside my living quarters, underneath the "awning".
I love the image of these all stacked up when folded up...
Why not just a normal tent? They are easy and light to transport, you can have them in any sizes, they dont need a completly flat surface to stand on, you can even have them with windows.
I really like tents to arrestme, bút it wouldn't be much of an alternative to itself...
But just looking at it's many qualities, you mentioned some yourself, can really provide excellent ideas to your design process!
I will definately try to get more comfort in the "awning" as well, with larger areas of full height. Perhaps I'll start off with trying to make a double layer awning with the abiity to extend or overlap even further...
2kemon
WilsonMetry 14-02-2006, 21:16 2kemon,
Very interesting project...
Am I understanding the scale accurately? Your sk8ter dude has to crouch to get under the awning and as such, can not stand up inside the "bedbox"? These are more like bunks on a ship or train. Crawl in and out?
Wondering if narrower and taller might work better. :wondering At least a person can stand up. Adds much convienence
Sloped roof to shed rain, smaller volume where not needed, etc
Good job, you might be onto a big trend at all outdoor multi-day concerts. :rock on:
WilsonMetry 14-02-2006, 21:16 2
just a thought, but i'd want to think about the realities of roskilde festival...
what does the box sit on, does it just sit on the muddy ground and slip and slide with the rain and i'd want to lock it up or open it up, so that you can escape into the box or open it up to experience the festival depending on your mood...
also at the end of the festival doesn't it get pretty crazy with people burning anything, tents, signs, clothes etc so i'd want to be able lock it down so it could be used again next year...
also a design which is sturdy and could almost be washed down to clean it out at the end of the festival...
@WilsonMetry
Spot on, as always! This truely is an important discussion, and it's been up. My choice of keeping the low square form comes from 3 things.
The inspiration source, which was those well-known tiny japanese capsules.
The folding capabilities are pretty straight forward with the current square shape. It could most likely work just as well with your more rectangular wedge, but I haven't examined that enought yet.
The most important reason probably comes from the current organisaton of tents at festivals. Their low heigth, and thus the ability for people to look over them, provides some kind of navigation for the festival guests.
I guess these perceptions are what brought me to my conclusions so far...
I really do apreciate your input, as it is an essential discussion of the design, so cheers to you...
best regards, 2kemon
@oesty
...You're quite right! Being able to lock the box is essential.
I'm not sure how much people would actually wanna sit inside the box during the day? I guess I'm leaning more to the approach of the bedbox really only being a bed in a box, and by that I mean, people using it for sleeping purposes.
Indeed, people get a bit freaky at the end of the festival, but I've been there many times myself - and it seems to me, people mostly burn their own crappy pissed-on tents. But one can only hope, I guess!? :eek:
If the box is mostly executed polycarbonate and glassfiber materials, shouldn't they be able to get hosed down good - and then reused? (I'm NOT a material wiz!!!)
In regards to stabilizing the unit to the surface, I would probably go for either "nailing" it to the ground like tents, or handing out some kinda mats, which could also provide a relatively dry surface in front of the opening...
WilsonMetry 15-02-2006, 07:26 2k,
I think your folding sides and simple shape is probably the best solution but I couldn't resist.
Not sure how to put a door on it..........got to go to bed
This drawing shows some merit. The rain will run off naturally. The sides could be shade material that you have all seen in restaurants that let some light in but block about 80% of the heat. The door is easy. Ever been in a tent? The back corner could use some struts on it so as to get some more height in that area.The sides’ need some molded in handles so that you can pick it up. The bottom should have risers on it so that a fork truck and pick it up at the storage facility. And let’s not forget a skylight.
Tom
@WilsonMetry
Very cool!!! This is exactly what I love about this forum. To be able to discuss your ideas with competent forces as you all have proved to be, and get inspiration such as your post! Again, thank you - and great job. (in about1/10 of the time I spent :o )
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