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Pedro Barradas
28-01-2006, 18:39
This is the final version of the shade done to an extension we did at a elementary school, old thread from PPB1.

Alll beams and columns (main structure are done in RHS steel)
Shade panel are made in extruded Polycarbonate with anti-UV treatment, opal finnish manufactured by RODECA (http://www.rodeca.de/)

I'm shure is not so good as Greg details, but we don´t usually do metalics

Pedro Barradas
28-01-2006, 18:41
some details

ouesty
28-01-2006, 18:42
where does the rain water drain off to???

is there a specially hidden gutter in the the fascia or do people just get wet at one edge????

Pedro Barradas
28-01-2006, 18:42
Get wet on the edge...

Pedro Barradas
28-01-2006, 18:43
Donīt rain to much around here :(

Francesco
28-01-2006, 18:46
Pedro, there was a reason to not use real glass ?

Pedro Barradas
28-01-2006, 18:49
Yes...
Price and secondly, as an elementary school, we decided to make it more vandal proof, or at least reduce maintenance cost.

And of course the reduced weight of the "glazing" will reduce the metalic structure costs

Pedro Barradas
28-01-2006, 18:54
Oesty, this is more a sun shade than a rain one... during good weather (almost all the year) will protect from the sun, during winter is just a covered path between buildings.

Pedro Barradas
28-01-2006, 18:59
another detail - connection to wall

cacapis
28-01-2006, 19:34
You are definitely good as Greg with the details. They're really nice.
The project seems very adequate to the school. Good work!

ouesty
28-01-2006, 19:45
just another q is that flashing attached by those bolts to the wall, or is it held with double sided tape stuff or is there a saw cut and a reglet installed, i know you say you don't get much rain but being from oz, studying in thailand rain is a bit of an issue....

also when isit being built and is the larger concrete block the rhs come out from for strength or is it for people to sit and rest on etc...

you say it is for shade why have you chose a see thru material, why not corrugated steel/aluminium... or if shading is not really a huge issue rather it is an marker can you explain the thinking behind the form that you designed please...setting etc..

Pedro Barradas
28-01-2006, 20:17
Oesty,
The metalic plate is bolted to the waal, will compress a neopren sealer or other type..
Rain is always an issue :D :D

The big concrete was conceived to function as a bench, transition element between the 2 buildings tha sit at diferent levels and became a structural element in the foundations.

I believe polycarbonate will bring a lighter perception of the structure...
The choosen material will be opaline - see thru in the drawings is intentional, so we can percept the global structure, and who is made - these drawings ar to be attached to Const. Docs.

The form...
Shader should be simple and economic.
Could not be connected to the existing building, just to the new one.
As an horizontal transition element between 2 diferent shape buildings.

Have to post the rest of the work.... I think itīs self explainable

Pedro Barradas
28-01-2006, 20:25
The new building...

Pedro Barradas
28-01-2006, 20:27
Another view...

Pedro Barradas
28-01-2006, 20:34
Picture of the site...
The new building will replace the metalic shader....

Pedro Barradas
28-01-2006, 21:10
plan...

WilsonMetry
28-01-2006, 22:50
Pedro -

Nice job.

One observation:

The end of the shading structure that is not attached to the building wall seems somewhat under supported. A larger support (same column but with knee braces, larger post, double post, small wall, etc) would make the end different because it is supported differently, thereby adding some interest.

Just a thought.

Great work getting school jobs. Love the quality and the thoughtful clients.

Pedro Barradas
29-01-2006, 00:46
Wilson,
I understand your worry, but the structure was calculated by the engineer, in this region we donīt consider snow action...

thanks for the feedback...

The school recint is populated by 1940 buildings (classrooms), except the one we are going to connect, from early 90's...(administrative and mediathec)

this new building will incorporate a multiporposes room, small kitchen and services...

GinSoakedBoy
29-01-2006, 00:56
The school recint is populated by 1940 buildings (classrooms), except the one we are going to connect, form early 90's...(administrative and mediathec)


1940 buildings? 0o
that sounds a bit strange

i think that everything just conects well, to me the shader seems to give a good conection between the new building and the surrounding

Pedro Barradas
29-01-2006, 01:15
Strange...why...donīt you know the CENTENÁRIOS program of schools, from the 40's decade... implemented by the Salazar regime?
after that we had the 60's program... with terrible buildings
Let me show you some, from the ALENTEJO region (each protuguese region has is one regional particularity and architecture, during the dictatorial regime those diferences were fomented in order to define a sense of patriotism and nationalism)
bellow is the 1940's type (2levels, 4 classrooms) one of the buildings from this school...

Pedro Barradas
29-01-2006, 01:18
the 60īs type - one level -2 classrooms
(this one to be refurbished into a community center - construction works in progress)

Pedro Barradas
29-01-2006, 01:25
those days, students were separeted by sex, if you notice in the 40's school, in the foreground there is another buildin equal to the one showned... one for boys, another for girls.

The 60īs programme were the same; 2 classrooms, with individual hallways and sanitary.. a wall in the meadle seperated both outside yards...

GinSoakedBoy
29-01-2006, 01:33
ok i missread sorry =P

when you wrote 1940 buildings i read 1940 as the total of buildings that composed the school and strangely i was finding that rather strange.
It's the lack of sleep sorry ^___^

Pedro Barradas
29-01-2006, 01:35
ok i missread sorry =P

when you wrote 1940 buildings i read 1940 as the total of buildings that composed the school and strangely i was finding that rather strange.
It's the lack of sleep sorry ^___^

...you are excused.... ;) go, and sleep...

ouesty
29-01-2006, 18:31
pedro i think that your shade structure works alot better within the whole context of the building, i had thought it was being attached to an existing building.....(i designed a steel strcuture for a an existing building at my old firm..)

so i think it makes alot more sense to me seing the canopy with your new building design.. keep up the good work and what is the main building made from??

sandropc
29-01-2006, 19:10
Nice work, Pedro I like the concept and the details are very clean and explicit. Just one question this transparent shader will protect against the sun in the sommer time ?

Pedro Barradas
29-01-2006, 19:15
ouesty,
you are referring to what main building?!, the 40's building, the 90's building or the new one?

Sandro,
Thanks for the kind words... the policarbonate will not be cristal clear, but opaline, is a 3 walls extruded sheet, top one Uv treated. It will work during sunny days... Here, during summer the school is closed :P

Pedro Barradas
29-01-2006, 19:24
Some detail of the new building...

Pedro Barradas
29-01-2006, 21:15
Wilson,
I understand your worry, but the structure was calculated by the engineer, in this region we donīt consider snow action...

Can you imagine is Snowing in this moment... Is the Cold Weather from Central and East Europe...

primocordara
30-01-2006, 11:38
Can you imagine is Snowing in this moment... Is the Cold Weather from Central and East Europe...
Quick! go add some pillars to the structure! :D

Pedro Barradas
30-01-2006, 11:46
Quick! go add some pillars to the structure! :D


:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

WilsonMetry
30-01-2006, 20:26
Pedro,
I was thinking about the extra support more as a visual element than structural. Engineering, we dont need no stinkin" engineering!! :D

Pedro Barradas
31-01-2006, 21:38
The final Specs sheet...

sandropc
01-02-2006, 03:46
Very clear, explicit and nice document Pedro, congratulations. :clap:

Pedro Barradas
18-07-2008, 17:30
After a LOOOONG period of time... confusions, construction errors... bad contractors, unbelieveble delays, an update of the actual site... pictures from 2008.05, and building still not 100% finnished...

digdoi
18-07-2008, 19:23
Congratulations Pedro! The real thing is looking much better than the renderings for me!:rock on:

The only thing that I don't like and I haven't noted before is the slight inclination of the structure. I prefer two planes converging to the center than the whole plane to one side, but that's just me.

Keep up the good work!:cheers:

Pedro Barradas
27-11-2008, 09:53
Outside complete...

(As soon I have some spare time I´ll take some interior shots.. as the building is now being used...)