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DacaD
22-01-2006, 01:51
hi all. this is the final draws i delivered for my teachers of a work i have show here before when i was in the midle of it (u can fint it in here http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1238 ).

So in short for this work i had 3 old buildings (that are the top 3 in the first draw) and lots of empty old warehouses to "adapt" to a professional school of "traditional arts and crafts" (i have no idea about this translation...lol).the 3 top buildings are the most important ones and every thing done in them would have to be very well justified.Of this buildings the one in the midle was an old wine warehouse with still the "cubas" (its where u store the wine) on it.

my main ideia for this work was making the floor 0 public and with acess to the school buildings that could have some interest for the general public like the library, auditorium etc...i did this cause i wanted to creat a good public space for people, a thing that this zone doest have and that i though it was a flaw.the rest of the school was a in the second floor suspended in pilars. i also used 2 of the top 3buildings to put rooms for admistration and teachers.

as for the presentation, the plants could be much better but i didnt had much time to work due to laptop problems in the last 2 weeks...But the thing i am most proud are the views and sections planes. they are 100% sketchup and they work perfect with all the shadows and details!!my teachers really liked the draws telling that the draw was much more expression like this (wich compensates all the trouble, stress and panic i went trough to end this work) and i did all the possible details in sketchup (thats also the reason why the model ended a 27mg beast....).all critics are welcome

top plant

DacaD
22-01-2006, 01:54
the floor 0 plant

a very open space marked by pilars and other kind of pilars that continue the structure of the roof to the floor and are going be used to suport the ramps that give acess to the floor up. theres also acessto the bar,library,mediateca (place to see movies and stuff),greenhouse and auditorium.

DacaD
22-01-2006, 01:59
the floor 1 plant

the school have a "U" shape with acess by stars in the conections of the "U" shape. each leg of this shape have 2 classroms each conected to a tool roms,a computer rooms, a theorical room and a pratical room.the conection for this 2 legs have a fifth class rom, wcs, 1st floos library and mediateca.

DacaD
22-01-2006, 02:01
the side views

in here we can see the old architecture style used in the old buildings and the conection between thhe new project.

DacaD
22-01-2006, 02:05
section planes 1
here we can see a cut by the auditorium, by the libray and bythe class rooms.i wish u could see the full draw cause with this size its hard to see all the details.

DacaD
22-01-2006, 02:08
section planes 2

DacaD
22-01-2006, 02:10
the entrance and and front views

DacaD
22-01-2006, 02:14
other views from the same spot

DacaD
22-01-2006, 02:16
views from the other side

DacaD
22-01-2006, 02:20
the ramps and a interior view of the building that had "cubas" to keep wine (i keept the ones in the midle and "blew up" the wall conected to the other warehouses and using glass on that wall (to have more light and make the building more inviting)

DacaD
22-01-2006, 02:22
library

DacaD
22-01-2006, 02:23
mediateca

DacaD
22-01-2006, 02:25
auditorium

DacaD
22-01-2006, 02:26
the greenhouse

DacaD
22-01-2006, 02:56
well for now this is all.im really happy to see that skethcup can handle draws on its own (without help of other 2d drafting softwares) and the final result beeing surprising good=). :not worth @Last Software lolol

i alrealy present this work to a jury, and i was very very nervous (first time presenting to a jury...i even cant remenber every thing i said lolol) but in the end they liked it(specially the simple style with lines from skethcup).

i did a 2 minute video for this presentation but its 78megas wmv file.if someone knows a way to make it small i can post it in here. all critics are welcome =)

and i have a zip with the full A4 book in powerpoint explaining everything (but in portuguese) withs lots of pics of the projeted that it werent posted here.i can also post the model (its a really big) if someone wants to see it, or the original jpegs with the side and section views if someone wats to see it with all the details (the original are in a A0 paper)

Hugzzz

GinSoakedBoy
22-01-2006, 12:15
:clap: :clap: :clap:

here i have to divide things in two.
1st- the project
2nd- your work in SU

the project

That building is somehow familiar to me but i am not seeing were it is. It seems a good work, very coherent and simple. Hope you get a good grade.

your work in SU

Ok... i am a bit of a suspect, i have just started working with SU, so almost everything seems simply amazing. but there are some things, that you mastered here, that troubles me in SketchUp, expecially line thickness, i am guessing that there's a simple solution but i just didnīt found it...


In the end congratulations for a great work. :D

DacaD
23-01-2006, 19:42
GinSoakedBoy

thanks for the coments. i really try to keep things simple and functional caused i try to give the project a industrial look. but theres some errors in this project that i didnt had time to fix...:P

the images are pretty simple to make. for this images i put the colors in face front and black white (better this way, cause if i used the "hidden line mode" in skethcup that puts everything white and with lines,cause in this mode the shadows and color gradients dont look so good).then u just have get a way to save it in to a jpegat 300 dpi (the regular export is 72 dpi in skethcup if im not mistaken).use something that install a virtual printerin your pc and that can be used to print to jpeg, and this way u can put scale on it too (use pdfcreator, leadtools...some of them are free programs).for line thinkness i really didnt use nothing, the line is always the same thinkness, and what gives expression and importence in the draws are the shadows, but in the sections planes to give more inportence to the "cut" area what i did was puting the section plane where i wanted,then did a create groupe from slice, copy that component created to a new skethcuup file and make faces on him and painted black,then copy it again and place in the same spot. u may have to move a litle section plane (move in a direction 1mm ou 0.5mm) just so that hhe wont make the black faces disapear, and thats all. no reall mistery in this :P

hope this would help

Rogier
30-01-2006, 21:29
looking good alltough you should be more careful when you add shadow to your perspective. Also change the red lines on the sectionplanes.

But its some nice modeling!

ouesty
30-01-2006, 21:48
ok, from your explanation of the project and the plan that is published i cannot 100% follow, i think some washed colours may have helped this planning organisation, thena again, i'm not viewing in person.

ok.. the design i think needs to be explained further. it seems to be very open and from the perspectives the space seems a bit empty and the shed structures above are large but i wonder how the space is cordinated totally cos it seems maybe a bit too open and i wonder a s apublic space whether it'd be a ghost town.. also is this a resuse of the shed strcuture or did you design the roof form, if so why this hape, cost, like it etc???

i would like to see some smaller details, peopel intercating with the space.. and why is the green house under cover doesn't this go against the design of a greenhouse, the auditorium/lecture theatre has a bizaar open space in front is this architect's folly or does it serve some purpose??... the sections are beautiful and will guarantee you some great marks..

the sections are brilliant.. well done, maybe the best sections i've seen on ppb...

cacapis
30-01-2006, 22:23
Ouesty, in the last image you can see that half the greenhouse is under direct sunlight, and you probably need some shade in sunny portugal.
What I would actually like to know is wich city is it located in.
Now the modelling is amazing. The way you did the old part of the building is beautiful. Really :craqueur:. Also the hidden line presentation looks really good although I think it works against you in this case.
You say that you wanted to give the project an industrial look and therefore you would be choosing different materials for this, but you can't tell how you want it to look from the drawings you presented. I know it takes time but it adds a lot more depth to the idea.
Also I think your project has a lot of uncontrolled open space. It's not bad to have an open plan, but you need to fill it up with uses. If not it would be a barren place. Program should also organize access to the school level and make everything easy to find.

DacaD
30-01-2006, 23:42
Rogier
can you be a litle more specific about the shadows in the perspective plz?about the red line:i wanted to do black and white in the perspective section planes but it didnt work so good as in the normal sections planes (and sometimes it was just more confusing) so i decided to keep the red lines (and this way was faster too:P)

ouesty
i didnt design the roof structures,they already exist from the old warehouses so i decided to keep it and use it as base for the my project.the auditorium has some errors that i was unable to solve due to lack of time =(.in this project i didnt put the urban furnitures and some stuff showing how things would work in that open space because i wanted just to keep the essencial and tough it wasnt necessary and the drawings would be better like this...now im not sure

cacapis
its located in lisbon (Lisboa).have u ever been in portugal cacapis?the far i went was france...lol.and believe me, i would love to complete detail this model with textures and everything possible and then render it with v-ray or maxwell but as always time wasnt in my favor...:P.and i even doubt my machine would be able to handle the model with textures (it was already slow without it)

thanks for all the comments guys.Hugzzzzzz