View Full Version : [2nd year student work] Prefab Housing


Tim
19-01-2006, 15:04
Program:

create a cluster of 2 houses. AND 1 + 1 = 3 (and footprint max 100m˛)
the negative space is as important is the positive space.
The design needs to make publicity for a new product. With as much expression of the material as possible.
It must be demountable!! First to several architectural expositions, final distinations is next to a high way!
There needs to be something "dubbel" "zinnig" (=ambiguous?) in reference to the highway.


each house needs to have:

2 persons must be able to live there.
there must be space for someone to sleep over.
min 10m˛ storage space.
min 20m˛ open space outside.

Tim
19-01-2006, 15:05
first A2 panel

Tim
19-01-2006, 15:06
demountable

Tim
19-01-2006, 15:09
I used steelframe contrustion for the walls and floors. I made the isolations and the steelframe visible by using plexiglass on the outside.

Tim
19-01-2006, 15:10
CAD drawing 1/4 (first house)

Tim
19-01-2006, 15:12
CAD drawing 2/4 (second house)

Tim
19-01-2006, 15:13
CAD drawing 3/4 (vertical section)

Tim
19-01-2006, 15:15
CAD drawing 4/4

Tim
19-01-2006, 15:16
model (demountable)

Tim
19-01-2006, 15:17
model

digdoi
19-01-2006, 15:46
Very good project. Congratulations. :clap:
I'm just don't like the glass box. I don't think you need it. You can take it off without compromise the functionality neither the design. And the images of the model without it are waaaay better than the one with it.

cccasperrr
19-01-2006, 15:59
Looks really good!

In which class are you? I mean, who was your teacher for this task? I'm a student at St. Lucas in Ghent, and I'm sure you're too.

What points did you get? It look really nice

imasayer
19-01-2006, 16:37
First of all I agree with digdoi that the glass (or plexiglass) box you tacked on at the end of the project does you no favors. I think the hardest part of being a young student is\ knowing when to stop, and not adding more “stuff”. (I guess this is a problem you can struggle with long after being a student)

I don’t think that the drawings make the structural system clear. It looks like you can have a floor where there is a horizontal member. Is that correct? If that is the case why not have a regular grid that allows you to have the most versatility for different plan layouts. I be being too hard on you for structural stuff, being so early on in you career, but just think about how you put it together.

All that being said, this is a really nice project. I think that the building system is pretty innovative for a prefab house. I really like the simplicity and the plans seem to work very well. Nice job!

Tim
19-01-2006, 17:12
First of all I agree with digdoi that the glass (or plexiglass) box you tacked on at the end of the project does you no favors. I think the hardest part of being a young student is\ knowing when to stop, and not adding more “stuff”. (I guess this is a problem you can struggle with long after being a student)

Yes, you have a point there. At the end, when i made the model, I found it also looking a bit too much. But I needed to find somehting ambigious for the design.


I don’t think that the drawings make the structural system clear. It looks like you can have a floor where there is a horizontal member. Is that correct?

Don't understand this one.. can you explain it a bit more?
about the grid...It has a kind of grid. Between every vertical steel column there is 185cm.
EDIT:
I think i know what you mean.. is it about the man that is standen above the stairs? I must have copy-paste it without looking. He's idd not standing on the best place.

Thanks for all the comments so far! ;)

imasayer
19-01-2006, 17:41
Don't understand this one.. can you explain it a bit more?
about the grid...It has a kind of grid. Between every vertical steel column there is 185cm.
EDIT:
I think i know what you mean.. is it about the man that is standen above the stairs? I must have copy-paste it without looking. He's idd not standing on the best place.

Thanks for all the comments so far! ;)

No, I mean I don't understand how the floor panels connect to the steel frame, but then again this is a second year project, and maybe that would be taking it a little far. I would just think about how that would actually come together, if only for your own knowledge.

I was saying that if the floor panels attach at the point where there is a horizontal steel member, then if you had regular horizontal members all the way around you can attach the floor anywhere. Does that make sense?

At any rate good project!

Francesco
19-01-2006, 17:44
Very intelligent solution. You're in second ???

Tim
19-01-2006, 17:50
@imasayer
yes I see, but than you would have used more steel members than necessary. I now only used steel members where there was no vertical steel frame wall available to support the floor.

_____
_____| |
| | |
| | |
this is how the floor is supported when there is a wall available.

when there is none:
____________
____________|
|X|

you get this type of support.

imasayer
19-01-2006, 18:16
yes I see, but than you would have used more steel members than necessary. I now only used steel members where there was no vertical steel frame wall available to support the floor.


Ok, I get it and as I think about it more, I like your solution more than what I am suggesting. The irregular grid looks better.

ralaw
20-01-2006, 13:50
I agree with the posters above the glass seems additive and really doesn't compliment the overall design. I did my thesis on a similar topic, so if you have any questions (that I can answer) I would be happy to help.

Victório Rojas
20-01-2006, 14:06
good work!

jake
20-01-2006, 14:09
I have to say that I like the project a lot and agree with the glass comments. Seems like an afterthought. The irregular pattern works better for me too.

I also have to say that a wave of nostalgia hit me when I saw your models. I use to have a toy building set when I was a kid and it looked a lot like your model. Pretty cool. Keep up the good work.

http://users.rcn.com/ed.ma.ultranet/gphistory.html

http://www.adclassix.com/ads2/62kennertoys.htm

lavardera
20-01-2006, 15:41
oooo - I had that too jake! Little I beams, snap on curtain wall panels. A little modernist sensibility at an early age does not hurt!

ryo
20-01-2006, 16:37
I have to say that I like the project a lot and agree with the glass comments. Seems like an afterthought. The irregular pattern works better for me too.

I also have to say that a wave of nostalgia hit me when I saw your models. I use to have a toy building set when I was a kid and it looked a lot like your model. Pretty cool. Keep up the good work.

http://users.rcn.com/ed.ma.ultranet/gphistory.html

http://www.adclassix.com/ads2/62kennertoys.htm
AND YOU WONDER WHY YOU BECAME ARCHITECTS???? :D

ryo
20-01-2006, 16:44
Tim, very clear and well presented project! :cheers:

I agree with digdoi for the plexi thing (or should I call that the 'Eisenman' touch? :D ): it's not necessary esthetics-speaking, but it's perhaps necessary for other issues? :wondering

The plan layouts makes me remember Moshe Safdie's Habitat 67
http://www.habitat67.com/home.htm

BUT I think you have a problem with the ceiling height in the staircase... On the plan, I wondered how you managed to climb 1 level just with one straight (quite short) staircase, while the external public stairs seem to have 3 parts for one level...?! :wondering Then I saw your section and it was obvious that it was a - little - problem (IMHO)...

PopZen
20-01-2006, 20:23
Very impressive. I am particularly interested in the program specs....the storage space minimum is always something I think people forget, and I am glad the program specified this.

ryarch
20-01-2006, 21:03
Just kidding with the Peter E. reference. I have been to the Wexner Center for the Arts in Columbus, Ohio, and it has an additive grid similar to yours. I think that his should have been value engineered out, just like yours.

Anyway...nice project. I like it alot. My only comment is:
To enforce the 'prefab' notion, would it have been possible to have the solid volumes (living spaces) stand clear of the vertical columns in the same way that the floor system sits on top of the beams? The walls engage the perimeter columns in your renderings and drawings. I think that a nice refinement would have been to pull all of the walls in enough that the volumes would look (and could be constructed on the ground and lifted into place) as though they are independent of the steel frame. A 'kit of parts' kind of message.

Great work! It is easy for us to nit pick at refinements that you may not have had time or the inclination to investigate.

swami
20-01-2006, 22:38
I can see how the turned grid pattern addresses the requirement of "zinnig" toward the highway. This is a point that, in context with the rest of the design, may be a little too violent, and that's why you're hearing so much of a response to this particlar issue. The design is really impressive for 2nd year. I wish I had sketchup when I was in school. The modernist view is elegant and closer to the real world than most like to admit. The interaction of the design with the road, being in such proximity, is a problem that architects have been dealing with for a while. Your turned grid is not as subtle as the rest of the vocabulary, so it does seem foreign.
I guess a suggestion would be to always push to explore beneath the surface of the ideas and perception of forms when asked to fulfill an "ambiguous" reqirement.

Great work :clap:

seabert
21-01-2006, 17:42
Nice project...who was your teacher?i'm also at St.Lucas, third grade...Quite a rising number of St.Lucas people on pushpullbar... :clap:

MICHEL
21-01-2006, 18:01
TIM, congratulations for your project! Nothing really more to add to others replies... glass box is too much as said before. Not totally convinced by the main staircase, not to mention that it looks wrongly drawn as Ryo pointed out. I understand you worked on the modular and demountable aspect, but I wonder if things couldn't have been pushed further because I like the overhanging aspect of each 'module'. Maybe you could have get rid of the outer columns by putting a central structural core... (alla MVRDV balconies :wondering )? Anyway, great work. The plans work really well. :D

cccasperrr
21-01-2006, 21:44
Nice project...who was your teacher?i'm also at St.Lucas, third grade...Quite a rising number of St.Lucas people on pushpullbar... :clap:

Yes, but it's (atleast for me) a very interesting forum for students imho. I'm second grade (like Tim is) My teacher was M. Valembois for this period.

Tim
22-01-2006, 10:58
BUT I think you have a problem with the ceiling height in the staircase... On the plan, I wondered how you managed to climb 1 level just with one straight (quite short) staircase, while the external public stairs seem to have 3 parts for one level...?! :wondering Then I saw your section and it was obvious that it was a - little - problem (IMHO)...

That's a bit the problem with the max resolution that the attachments may have here. You can't see the dotted parts of the stairs..
I'll add a 3D image of the main staircase. the height of each tread is 18cm.

@Michel : that would idd have been a great opportunity! But I wasn't sure if steelframe was able to overhang. (so construction issues)

Thanks a lot for all the comments !!

MICHEL
22-01-2006, 12:01
Ok Tim, now I get the stairs! :D

BruceWalker
22-01-2006, 20:37
Well done Tim. An excellent project for a second year...if this is your level of skill then I can't wait to see what you're like when you pop out the other side of university! :craqueur:

Others have made all necessary comments re: design etc. My only comment has to do with presentation. Get your hands 'dirty' with Photoshop to give your images a little more sophistication. Apart from that, congrats indeed. :cheers:

Rogier
30-01-2006, 21:35
I like it too tim. glass idd a little too much. But hey.

I'm also a student in my second year. I do my studies in Diepenbeek (PHL). Nice to see that a lot of belgian student find the way to this forum. I registred a couple of months ago but haven't find the time to get active yet. Hope to change this in the near future.

ryo
30-01-2006, 22:04
I like it too tim. glass idd a little too much. But hey.

I'm also a student in my second year. I do my studies in Diepenbeek (PHL). Nice to see that a lot of belgian student find the way to this forum. I registred a couple of months ago but haven't find the time to get active yet. Hope to change this in the near future.
Welkom in, dan, Rogier! :cheers: :D

Cjaeger
01-02-2006, 05:22
Hey tim, I like your work! I'm kind of in 2nd year (just finished 2nd year).. well.. I'll start 3rd year in March (I'm from Chile). I haven't posted any of my projects since I didn't finish the sketchup models.. because, for the presentations, we have to present the model, boards (just some 3D images).. but, when I finish them I'll post them se we can talk about them, since we're through something similar.. in different countries, ok?

Just one thing about yours.. I think you never talk about materials. there's glass.. but, what about the exteriors/interiors?? - or you leave it for 3rd year or later??

Tim
01-02-2006, 18:06
Just one thing about yours.. I think you never talk about materials. there's glass.. but, what about the exteriors/interiors?? - or you leave it for 3rd year or later??

The walls "speak". They are made of steelframe, filled with a special isolation material. sealed with plexiglass.
interior side of the wall: Alulight panels.

I expressed the way of the material use in the real model. Not in the computer model.

sinDy
21-02-2006, 10:27
house R128 will be a good reference.. and it is recycl-able.. :cool:

Alice_Yeung
26-02-2006, 12:27
the CAD draw by AutoCAD or ArchiCAD?

lervo
27-02-2006, 10:36
i think its a fairly good attempt for a 2nd architecture student. i was at that stage too myself. but you have a good working design, however, two things i dont think the glass facade that you tacked on to the building helps it at all, and the structural drawings arent that clear. but getting it right the first time comes with practice, i should know because i am still learning.

HAHA1984
10-05-2006, 09:41
oo !~~ special design ! this COOL!!

Fei
16-05-2006, 10:32
Nice design!

The extra glass thing is such a benelux thing to do ;) I can understand where it comes from. But indeed, it feels like a little too much (prolly the 100th person to say this) and it looks (dare I say it) a little postmodern together with it.