Following AZUMA HOUSE (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1747) thread... I found some dwg and decided to model this house... :bang head Still a lot to add to make it perfect but here you go... KOSHINO HOUSE (http://www.datarq.fadu.uba.ar/datarq/obras/tdkh/homepage.html) .

This building is located on the verdant slope of a national park. Tadao Ando arranged two organic concrete boxes in parallel so as to avoid the scattered trees, and had them buried half-way into the ground. The two boxes, of different sizes, are linked by an underground corridor and they also frank a courtyard. One volume comprises two levels; the lower level accommodates the living room, the kitchen and the dining room, and the upper level, the master bedroom. The living room is of double height and becomes the core of this building. The stepped courtyard generated between the two volumes functions as an outdoor living room, and wide stairs receive and reflect the natural light trickling through the trees and serve as an extension of the stage for everyday life. It is an autonomous exterior space, a part of nature that has been isolated and fashioned by man. The atelier was added four years after the house was completed. By introducing a curve into the rectilinear scheme, Ando arrived at a new composition. A wall describing a quarter-circle arc holds back the earth and defines a territory. Although this feature was not originally planned, the addition completes the entire composition.

Main House
Location: Ashiya, Hyogo, Japan
Design: 1979-1980
Construction: 1980-1981
Structure: Reinforced concrete
Site Area: 1,141 m²
Total Floor Area: 241.6 m²

Extension
Design: 1983
Construction: 1983-1984
Structure: Reinforced Concrete
Total floor area: 52.7 m²

Have fun... :D

and model... feel free to upgrade it if needed. :peace:

Wow, Very nice Michel. Did you get the dimensions from his book?

I own the Tadao Ando Complete Works...What a great book :not worth

http://www.aroots.org/home/IMG/arton14.jpg

Marvelous model, MICHEL. Thanks for sharing.
I have a facsimili set of original drawings (all drawn by pencil) for this house, and I was thinking about modeling it...glad I didn't do it.
This house is the masterpiece by the master. I think it is one of the best by Ando. It is so beautiful, the client (fashion designer Junko Koshino) loved it so much that she didn't mind the fact she has to wear a skiwear in the house during winter time (it is so cold). :eek:

Of course this is going to be one of Ryo's one on one deathmatch maps :rock on:
Great work!

Jason

I checked dimensions from several sources. Mainly from dwg found on the link posted above. Added and checked details from pictures. I realized NO model is actually correct...

Takesh

Thx mate. I agree, this is Ando's masterpiece! Please check dimensions... normally this model should be correct.

:craqueur: :craqueur: :craqueur:

My outmost respect! :not worth :not worth :not worth

Of course this is going to be one of Ryo's one on one deathmatch maps :rock on:
Great work!
Hi Cesar!
Actually Koshino House IS on my list of map-to-do's :D
I LOVE this house sooooooooooooooooooooooo much!!!
I think it's the 'standard' Ando House, the one everything has begun from... (I mean 'standard' as the one every other houses by Ando have to be compared to).
I discovered the poetical (and potential) beauty of raw concrete with this project, just like lots of other young arch students in the world, I suppose... :)
The way sunlight plays with the inner space and the double-height concrete wall is stunning, and almost mystical... :eek:
http://www.geocities.com/arquique1/ando/andokh.html
You know, this famous worldwide-known shot :D ...

http://slanted.org/portfolio/timebased.html

Tres joli, mon cher ami!!

I have heard that he had that wall ripped down about four times before the contractor got the right amount of ripple in it. It was worth it - bet the contractor didn't think so :)

This shot is well-known too... :D

Wow Michel, it is hi res and all, but like a needle in a haystack! I'm burning my eyebrows over Ashiya... :eek:
BTW just found Osaka is hi res, but even more dense!

just put oshiya, japan on the "fly to" box in GE, the house is on the slope of a national park... seems like an interesting game...

Can any one help me find it? any street names or maps?
No street names on GE...

Wow Michel, it is hi res and all, but like a needle in a haystack! I'm burning my eyebrows over Ashiya... :eek:
BTW just found Osaka is hi res, but even more dense!

just put oshiya, japan on the "fly to" box in GE, the house is on the slope of a national park... seems like an interesting game...

Can any one help me find it? any street names or maps?
No street names on GE...
jaja
GEmaster is lost in translation? :D

what about this, Primo?

EDIT: this kmz is wrongly placed, see this post (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24112&postcount=30) for the correct location.

Anyway, I can't find yet...

I don't think this is it Ryo... doesn't look like the aerial picture we often see... :wondering

I don't think this is it Ryo... doesn't look like the aerial picture we often see... :wondering
I think that too but the aerial picture we used to see dates from 1986, so the vegetation grew, roads may have changed, etc. What intrigues me is that one cannot see the road which leads actually to the house anymore...
Anyone?

maybe if you switch on the roads in GE you might be able to see where the street in front of it is, as you know the house is sited on an angle to the street/block

Hai ryo-san!!

Completely lost! no streets on GE on this city, clever Kevin !;) otherwise piece of cake... I turned on all the GE comunity's posts to see placemarks, but there aren't any, only some "Hankyu's" ¿? wonder what that is...


From the aerial picture we always see I deduce :
There are two parallel streets limiting the compound, something difficult to find on a slope in a national park.

The picture seems to be taken from a nearby high position with a tele, posibly a tall building?

I don't understand the districts in Japan, but isn't your sugestion out of Ashiya?? what is muko-san and Ko-san? WHat is -SAN !!!:bang head

maybe if you switch on the roads in GE you might be able to see where the street in front of it is, as you know the house is sited on an angle to the street/block
The thing is, Kevin, in Japan usually streets don't have any name...
Instead we use Blocks numbers, followed by another number which refers to the individual house. Another problem is that the numbers don't follow a geographical or continuous 'street' logic, but the order of construction.
Therefore, only an experienced postman can figure out the actual position of a house... :D

Wow! Reminds me of Nicaragua were all adresses are like:

"120 mts west from the Autocinema" !.. I wonder if the autocinema is still there, or they just use it as reference...

and model... feel free to upgrade it if needed. :peace:

do I have to delete the model from my HD if I don't come to PPB for a while...??? :wondering :D

Thanx Michel... brilliant work yet again... but what more can we expect from you other than that...

cheers
Trevor

Wow! Reminds me of Nicaragua were all adresses are like:

"120 mts west from the Autocinema" !.. I wonder if the autocinema is still there, or they just use it as reference...
LOL

Michel,

Great model, but I have a question. What are the names of the wood floor material in your model. When I open it up I'm getting weird character names for several of the textures. Example 'v<LightGray>1' for the wood texture and v<LightGray>6 for the concrete.

Anybody know what's going on with these names?

I found it. Just on the edge of hi-res area, but you can see it.

and a kmz, if you are interested... ;)

I found it. Just on the edge of hi-res area, but you can see it.

You know the location, right? It's impossilble to recognize it in GE... :wondering

Thanks a bunch Takesh-san!!

BTW: does -san mean "friend" or something like it? I had that idea, but why do these places have -san too??

You know the location, right? It's impossilble to recognize it in GE... :wondering
Exactly!!!
It's IMPOSSIBLE to read it correctly... :eek:

Thanks a bunch Takesh-san!!

BTW: does -san mean "friend" or something like it? I had that idea, but why do these places have -san too??
'san' means something like 'mister', or 'madame'. It's a polite form without being exaggerated... (like 'sama' which means somethin' like 'lord', or 'sir')...
'kun' is much more difficult to translate, because it depends on the context it's used. 'kun' could mean 'friend', 'mate', 'collegue', 'boy', etc.

Takesh-san, what do you think?

You know the location, right? It's impossilble to recognize it in GE... :wondering
Yes, as I said, I have a complete set of drawings. they include address and a hand-drawn map.
I think you can decipher the distinguishing curve and its shadow in the pic...

Takesh-san, what do you think?
I think that is right, ryo-san.

I see thanks! ryo-san and takesh-san !!

I thought it mean friend or pal... but that would be ryo-kun of kun-ryo??:wondering

I see thanks! ryo-san and takesh-san !!

I thought it mean friend or pal... but that would be ryo-kun of kun-ryo??:wondering
ryo-kun, yep, primo-kun :D

Most of the time I like the real world object rather than the computer generation of it, however this su model is very very nice. I like it better than the actual photo of ando's house. :rock on:

http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/tatemono/html/housou/01/011229.html

I love these models!! It's really a reat way to explore other peoples work!! While nothing can beat seeing it in realy life being able to explore the model is truly educational! :cheers:

ryo... thanks for the link, i love to see the" lived in" appearance.

One image that caught my eye was the superbly integrated hall lighting. ;)

Still love the formal progressions thru this house. I have found that the Ando works I have seen are beautiful to occupy visually from the outside and have sumptuous materiality on the interior with dramatic plays of light and shadow.. but seem cold( impersonal) and quite confined by western standards not the most comfortable place to live or work all day. I havent seen that many so I may be missing something else in the overall scale of the churches and japanese houses..

However I loved every view while at the Vitra conference center .. but had to turn slightly to get in the water closet.

I really liked the Chicago projects.. The Chicagohouse it seemed more like an old NewYork five project re-rendered in concrete. This is not a criticism more a relative observation ..

Fantastic model Michel.. :clap:

what is the function of the steel rail on the roof of the bedroom wing?

http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/tatemono/html/housou/01/011229.html
I think this is where I got the ski-wear story from.

what is the function of the steel rail on the roof of the bedroom wing?
I always thought that rail is unfunctioning handrail...

I have found that the Ando works I have seen are beautiful to occupy visually from the outside and have sumptuous materiality on the interior with dramatic plays of light and shadow.. but seem cold( impersonal) and quite confined by western standards not the most comfortable place to live or work all day. I havent seen that many so I may be missing something else in the overall scale of the churches and japanese houses..

best to read my favorite book

Light in Japanese Architecture - by Henry Plummer
A+U Publication

that would shed some light (no pun intended) on those issues.

the texture of Ando's work when experienced does not have the coldness...

I managed to convince the estate agent (without speaking Japansese) to show me around a just finshed small apartment block of his in or near Roppongi 18 mths ago; the texture of the walls in a bedroom was like silk- intensely beautiful...

I think the richness really does come through the qualities of light and landscape (natural or abstract)

Thanks for the recommendation.. I see that Koshino is among the examples in the book

ISBN 4-900211-49-4

The Vitra center had wonderfull textures and absolutely stunning details.. There is a wonderfull wood wall in a conference room that small 1" square grid is cut out like a mesh grid .. With the strong grain showing thru. Amazing .. but it still didnt feel inviting. More like a gallery. Wonderful and sumptuous but not inviting. i am hoping that when I am in Japan i can resolve this limited experience feeling by actually visiting some of the Ando buildings in Japan.

i am not ipugning the richness of the architecture just the livability.

the texture of Ando's work when experienced does not have the coldness...
the texture of the walls in a bedroom was like silk- intensely beautiful...

The Ando concrete is REALLY SILKy. When you touch it, you got some veeeeery thin 'powder' on the fingers.
You have to touch it to believe it.
I don't know if his outside-of-japan works are of this quality.
I've heard Ando prefered to work with japanese 'concretemen'(?) because of the differences in techniques (not to mention the 'secret recipe of Ando's concrete'; I found this recipe on the web once but totally forgot since)...

best to read my favorite book

Light in Japanese Architecture - by Henry Plummer
A+U Publication

that would shed some light (no pun intended) on those issues.
Very nice book, kevin! Sold out, I presume, ? :wondering Maybe on Amazon, page?

Koshino House, Church of Light, Yoshida House...and more.
(2D drawings, 3d modeling, photos..)

http://cat2.mit.edu/arc/gallery/4203_final2/

Hello. Maybe anyone has the draftings of koshino house. All the elevations, cross logitudinal sections, plans. I can not find them anywere. Maybe anyone could send me to email araguotis@yahoo.com It is really urgent.

Hello. Maybe anyone has the draftings of koshino house. All the elevations, cross logitudinal sections, plans. I can not find them anywere. Maybe anyone could send me to email araguotis@yahoo.com It is really urgent.

Hello first of all, welcome! :D
I'm not sure if you read the complete thread. The skp file is available on the first page. You could use that one to make section. I'm sure Michel used reall measures to draw the house.

Hello all,

Im an architecture student at Philadelphia University and this semester we have to completely document a home and really get to know it and the next half of the semester we have to ad an addition onto a home. I happen to get Ando's Koshino house. I already have around 20 models. A few site models, and tons of anaylis models showing structure, axis, solid vs void, circulation, etc. etc. The more and more I work on this, the more and more i think that this house is perfect the way it is. Compositionally perfect. But i would love to see some of the models other people are doing. I was wondering what type of files ae some of the ones posted in the first page.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks guys,
Johnny

Welcome to the forum. Would love to see some scans on the work you have done. Feel free to photo or scan images to add to the dialogue

Ando is very popular(forgive me to use this word) in my country and in all Asia countries. :D

I think it's the case not only in the Asian Continent but all over the world.

;) I think it's the case not only in the Asian Continent but all over the world.
Yeah.I agree with you.And japanese architect is very famous all aroud the world.Spearding it's culture to the other country (especially China).But until now chinese architect can't find a way of them own ,or I can say they are confused.(or We are confused.)

;)
Yeah.I agree with you.And japanese architect is very famous all aroud the world.Spearding it's culture to the other country (especially China).But until now chinese architect can't find a way of them own ,or I can say they are confused.(or We are confused.)

interesting point, though there is an interesting movement of local architects in china doing fascinating work, people such as Yung Ho-Chang (http://int.kateigaho.com/mar04/architect-chang.html) of FCJZ (feichang jianzhu) in Beijing

Probably he refers to the absence of a general trend and the proportion of ugly buildings to good architecture.
But there definitely is something going on in China. The commune by the great wall is a very clear example of it and soon we'll have many more interesting things coming from that country.

interesting point, though there is an interesting movement of local architects in china doing fascinating work, people such as Yung Ho-Chang (http://int.kateigaho.com/mar04/architect-chang.html) of FCJZ (feichang jianzhu) in Beijing
I got it.FCJZ(非常建筑).I heard him a lot ,he is one of the world's most closely watched Chinese architects.(developer Pan Shi Yi's Commune by the Great Wall )

Probably he refers to the absence of a general trend and the proportion of ugly buildings to good architecture.
But there definitely is something going on in China. The commune by the great wall is a very clear example of it and soon we'll have many more interesting things coming from that country.

yeah. Of course. I am chinese. :D And I have great confidence with chinese architects.

In Hong Kong a couple of months ago, and took a look at this building in Stanley. Looks like Ando, anyone know if it is?


CheersM

Looks like Ando, anyone know if it is?
Welcome to PPB, womby.
The building... Impossible, it cannot be by Ando and it doesn't look like made of real concrete.
The surface material might be some kind of panels painted like in situ concrete. :confused:

No, in fact it is real concrete, and you will notice that the formwork and formtie setout are pure Ando ie. 6 formties and what appears 1800x900mm form ply panels. everything is the real deal, I noted absolutely no fake stuff, and also being built by a Japanese construction company.

I must say I didnt see any fake in HK, in fact some seriously cutting edge design and construction. I would also add, havent seen on-site productivity like what I saw in a few areas there. If only we could get construction guys here in Oz to work at that pace!!!

CheersM

interesting point, though there is an interesting movement of local architects in china doing fascinating work, people such as Yung Ho-Chang (http://int.kateigaho.com/mar04/architect-chang.html) of FCJZ (feichang jianzhu) in Beijing


My Gawd Swank! That's quite a bit of reading you do!
(Even assuming that you do a search for articles relevant t posts here, you still read the articles. Am impressed.
:not worth

Looks like Ando, anyone know if it is?

lots of stuff around using the same form patterns as Ando (especially in Tokyo)- often it is easier to tell by the proportions of the building...

No, in fact it is real concrete, and you will notice that the formwork and formtie setout are pure Ando ie. 6 formties and what appears 1800x900mm form ply panels.
Hmmmm... I didn't see the real building so if you say it was real then it might, but I said it doesn't look real for three reasons. :wondering

1. There is no visible construction joint on the front facade. When we pour concrete on site,
the height of one placement cannot exceed 5m...or less (check the photo below, Kimbell Art Museum taken by wegofaster (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345&page=2&pp=10)).
The facade has eleven consecutive panels vertically without single joint, that's 10m high! :eek:

2. The distribution of formties is too uniform, they look more mathematical than structural.
They usually deviate on columns, near wall joints, at the top of walls.
The column inside the ground floor has only one form tie at the center of its width... that cannot hold the panels.

3. During construction and after while, concrete colors vary drastically from parts to parts (again, see the photo below and this is months after its completion),
and as it gets dry on the surface its color gets light and homogeneous.
The building in question has perfectly the same shade from bottom to top even though it was poured recently.

One possibility is it is pre-cast in a factory and transported to the site, but considering the size of the wall I don't think that's the case.

Ando's formtie distribution. This is very structural. :cool:
So even if it is real concrete, it cannot be by Ando.

Ando's formtie distribution. This is very structural. :cool:
So even if it is real concrete, it cannot be by Ando.

it is based on a Tatami Mat size or 1 'Ken' (Japanese traditional structural bay measurement)

It is insitu concrete, consistent mix I guess gives consistent colour. Joint between lifts obviously at joint line of formwork.

Form tie setout does indeed appear to be the betrayer of an Ando-esque style. Good composition even so.

CheersM

Sorry but it doesn't look like Ando at all for me...

what program should I use to open that skp file?

Umm, Sketchup (http://www.sketchup.com) would be a good place to start. :P

Sounded stupid. Thank you :)

Hi!!!

I need drawings the koshino house, and sections and plantas.

Sorry for my english

I from Colombia.

Thanks.

hey everybody,

first of all thanks for all the information you all posted!

i'm doing an analysis of the Koshino house and i have some questions, perhaps you know the answer!!!

The house is build for 3 people right? Junko Koshino her husband and daughter! why does the house have 6 bedrooms + a main bedroom?

does anybody have the program ando used to build this house or something like that?

any info is welcome! :not worth

bartstee, don't post the same contents in many forums.
That's called multi-post and should be avoided. I deleted your other posts and answer to this one.
I do have a program and it says;
the house is for a couple, two children, and a grandmother.
There are eight private rooms in a row and the west most room is actually a storage.
The East most two continuous Japanese rooms are obviously for the grandmother. Out of five rooms left, two are for their children and the rest are I suppose guest rooms.
Do you need this kind of info to analyze the house?

bartstee, don't post the same contents in many forums.
That's called multi-post and should be avoided. I deleted your other posts and answer to this one.
I do have a program and it says;
the house is for a couple, two children, and a grandmother.
There are eight private rooms in a row and the west most room is actually a storage.
The East most two continuous Japanese rooms are obviously for the grandmother. Out of five rooms left, two are for their children and the rest are I suppose guest rooms.
Do you need this kind of info to analyze the house?

sorry for multi-posting!!! my mistake:bang head

thank you very much for your answer, that's the kind of information i'm looking for yes.

any information on the way the house is used is welcome!
I'm doing a study on time and architecture. I analyze the Koshino house because of the relasionship with seasons and nature.

thank you so much michel!!
I am from Madrid and I am looking information about KOSHINO HOUSE because it will be my final project (I am "maquetista" (sorry I need more english lessons)).
Do you know where i can find the plans??

By the way, what kind of program is the one to read files .skp???


Merci a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, what kind of program is the one to read files .skp???

Ploteado,

Check HERE (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2785)

And welcome to [PPB]²!:cheers:

ok thank you very much.
i just saw the firt page (didn´t see the others....)

so,thank you very much :cheers:

no i will try to open that file....but.....where can I find the exactly measures???


Well....if anybody speaks spanish here: alguien sabe donde puedo conseguir las medidas exactas de la casa Koshino?? es para hacer la maqueta de mi proyecto final. Muchas gracias.

Thanks a lot!!!

thank you so much michel!!
I am from Madrid and I am looking information about KOSHINO HOUSE because it will be my final project (I am "maquetista" (sorry I need more english lessons)).
Do you know where i can find the plans??

By the way, what kind of program is the one to read files .skp???


Merci a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're welcome Ploteado :D But check HERE (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1890&highlight=tamiya+models) before starting your model... :cheers:

:D :D :D
Thanks Michel......but it´s not fair to do that!!. :D

We do that models in "fores" (sorry don´t know in english.......similar to plastic, usually white), you know.........mmmmm.....(don´t know how to explain) we have to do ALL the process.
But Thanks a lot.


Do you know the measures of the building? I have been looking Japan Architec. and El Croquis.....and there are plans.....but no the exactly measures.......:confused:


:cheers: Pleased to meet you all.

Well....if anybody speaks spanish here: alguien sabe donde puedo conseguir las medidas exactas de la casa Koshino?? es para hacer la maqueta de mi proyecto final. Muchas gracias.

Thanks a lot!!!

Ploteado, una vez que tienes el Sketchup y abres el archivo puedes tomar las medidas tu mismo de cada detalle dibujado.
buena suerte!

now in english (forum oficial language)

Ploteado, once you have Sketchup you just open the file and meassure every single detail modeled.
good luck

Thanks merengue. But...how can i do that? , i don´t know how to use that program........i usually use autocad or 3d max

Thanks merengue. But...how can i do that? , i don´t know how to use that program........i usually use autocad or 3d max

maybe this is a discussion for the sketchup forum but the program is very simple indeed, very "user friendly". You need only 2 tools. One is the orbit/zoom tool (just play around with your mouse wheel) and the tape measure tool (a button with a tape measure icon on it), let the point snaping do the rest.

hope to be usefull, :cheers:

thanks i´m going to see sketchup forum
:cheers: Thanks people

Hi again!

I´m sorry.....but i can´t find how to take the measures.........?¿?¿?¿ :wondering :confused:

menu Tool / tape measure :)
Depending that you want : Enter a measure of something (use the numeric Window enter coner left side bottom)

Thanks a lot Frenchy Pilou!!!

Lots of good people here!!

But I think I have a different SketchUp, i just have the free viewer, so I don´t have "menu/tools"
May be that the problem :confused:


Thanks a lot people :not worth

...the free Google Sketchup (http://sketchup.google.com/download.html) and have happy modeling, measuring etc...:rolleyes:
But I think I have a different SketchUp, i just have the free viewer, so I don´t have "menu/tools"
May be that the problem

:cheers:
thank you very much!!

Beautiful model:)

I am trying to build an model of this house. i don't know where to start doing my reasearch from. can anyone give me some information regarding where i can find the dim and elevation for the house and the site plan. Thank you

The Sketchup viewer has no measuring tool, go for the google sketchup version.

primocordara:
you mean using the google sketchup to from the floor plant and the elevation? i did not know about that thank you.

There are lot of plans in the universities! :cheers:

thanks for all of your help. i found the plan in the library, and i have finished all the drawing. i am starting on my model now, but could not decide what kind of material i should use for the window. i did not want want to build a large scale model. can anyone help me

This is great... keep up the good work!

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I've made a model in MDF (4mm) of the Koshino House.
What a experience :)
Enjoy it.

rest of pictures gonna follow.

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Uhh! this site need an easely way to upload.

Thank you Michel for your .skp model

that's impressing!:cheers:

Out of curiosity: how heavy is that thing?
Looks good btw.

Hi Stijn

I don't know how heavy is it, realy.
Not to heavy. It can be moved :)

Hey hey hey! Well done! Nice to see someone is still trying to get in touch with the "real thing" in our virtual world. :clap:

Nice model Michel. I can't say it's a house I'd ever want to live in as (in my opinion) it seems to totally ignore the human scale in most of its spaces, but it certainly is very nice to look at.

...it seems to totally ignore the human scale in most of its spaces...

What makes you think so? Just curious...

The furnishing I've seen of the living area looks lost within the volume created.
The bedrooms are tiny and I don't like their windows at all - overall the sleeping area looks a bit like something designed for monks, though even they wouldn't be too happy sleeping there. In reality the rooms are probably okay to sleep in but to me they look a bit like prison cells with no real relationship between the inside and the outside apart from some pretty dull looking windows. Circulation within the building is totally hopeless - it looks like it's a case of find the longest path between A and B and use it.
Overall, the bare concrete makes the building look quite brutal and one has to wonder how it's going to look with 20+ years of dust and grime on it. Personally I like off form concrete but hang a painting on the walls and you kill the effect the architect is trying to create. For me this building fails to balance the needs of people and the architects desire to create a form. There appears to be no thought given to the thermal performance or energy use of the building at all but that's fairly common with Japanese buildings. Simply put, the building for me lacks any feeling of humanity but maybe that's intentional; anyway it still looks good as an architectural form from the outside.

...one has to wonder how it's going to look with 20+ years of dust and grime on it...
Actually this building is already 25 years old... And yes, it's pretty damn cold in the winter, but the owner wouldn't change it for anything else... :D

Yes I know it's about 25 years old and most of the photographs we see are just about as old too, so it would be safe to presume that unless there is a cleaning program in place, this building will not be in its once pristine condition. I'm sure the owner is very happy in this building and I would be too but my wife tells me I'd be living there on my own as she does not like it at all, but then she's not an architect. :)

i am in college studying architecture and have completed a few projects, including the koshino house. i noticed that there were some questions about exact dimensions of the house. i have a copy of 'tadao ando: details' from our library that has these dimensions. the model in this thread is very well made, but is not accurate. i am in the process of making a set of plans and an accurate model of the house. upon completion i will post the final drawings and pics of the model.

i am in college studying architecture and have completed a few projects, including the koshino house. i noticed that there were some questions about exact dimensions of the house. i have a copy of 'tadao ando: details' from our library that has these dimensions. the model in this thread is very well made, but is not accurate. i am in the process of making a set of plans and an accurate model of the house. upon completion i will post the final drawings and pics of the model.
I look forward to seeing your drawings. The problem I find with a lot of drawings is that they do not show vertical dimensions and a lot of models just guess at what they are - usually people just by eye as there is no other option.

i strongly agree about the lack of vertical dimensions. but with the drawings i have, they include the number of concrete blocks that ando uses in the vertical direction. so the vertical dimensions are just a matter of adding the amount of blocks. there are fractions of blocks used throughout the building, but it is still easily definable.

but with the drawings i have, they include the number of concrete blocks that ando uses in the vertical direction. so the vertical dimensions are just a matter of adding the amount of blocks. there are fractions of blocks used throughout the building, but it is still easily definable.
??? There is no concrete blocks involved in this building, I don't think... :confused:

Instead of supposing this or that, why doesn't someone check the vertical dimensions in the model... once for all. For your information, I haven't been guessing any measures but I'd be glad to correct my model if needed.

you are correct. there are no literal blocks in the house. andos concrete has his signature pattern on it. i was referring to that patten. i didnt explain it correrctly. hopefully this clears up any misconceptions of what i posted.http://www.andotadao.org/wall.htm

sorry. i was trying to post a picture, but i obviously made an error somewhere

use the manage attachments button below the text area to attach images, pdfs, models, etc.

refer to the FAQs for additional info...

thanks for the help trogers.

heres a good pic to see the pattern in the house

Hi again.
I´ve been working with the Michel´s model .skp and it is really very usefull for me (thanks once more), but there´s just one thing that i don´t understand.....there´s a windows in the house that is not in the model, why?

I also have been in a lot of universities here in Madrid......and i have find some information about Ando´s life and works and about the Koshino House (measures and more things) but i think it is no enought for my work........should anybody give me more information or measures???
Thanks a lot for all!!

i think we can be of help. and when i say we i mean everyone here at pushpullbar. if you need some measurements of particulars i can be of some help. and if you have any questions about the house im sure some here knows the answer. or at least where to get the answer.

the client loved it so much that she didn't mind the fact she has to wear a skiwear in the house during winter time (it is so cold). :eek:

I live in japan and every house is like this, freezing.
They just don't use insulation here eh Takesh?

Of course this makes it easier to design beautiful solid concrete forms and make perfect concrete pours.

thanks funky fresh,....
so, what can you tell me about that window? thanks a lot!

I live in japan and every house is like this, freezing.
They just don't use insulation here eh Takesh?
Hey, come over to my house, I sleep in my pants even on the coldest day of winter (an exaggeration).:rolleyes:
I think, there is this general attitude among Japanese architects that they have more important things to be concerned with than things like insulation... I could be wrong, but at least I can say this tendency is strong here in Japan compared to Europe and the US.

so, what can you tell me about that window? thanks a lot!
It is written at the top of this page; "Forum members are encouraged to modify the models based on their own understanding and experiences to help make them even better representations of the real thing."
So what are you waiting for? Yes there should be a window there.

the window is actually more to the right of the X. it is 1350x1800. it is cdentered on that wall and should be 225 above the ground. if these numbers are incorrect, please inform me. also the model is missing a skylight. there should be one at the top-left corner of the single story building below the two story building. right above the bathroom if that helps.

the window is actually more to the right of the X. it is 1350x1800. it is cdentered on that wall and should be 225 above the ground. if these numbers are incorrect, please inform me. also the model is missing a skylight. there should be one at the top-left corner of the single story building below the two story building. right above the bathroom if that helps.

Funky fresh, why not take on the skp and make the changes? It is welcomed in this forum and most appreciated.

correction, the width of the window is 2050. all other dimensions are correct. and to answer why not correct the model.... to be honest. i do not know how to use sketchup lol. i played around with it and didnt get far. i use architectural desktop for my computer generating.

hi michel. i would love to see the model you made of the koshino house. however, i can't seem to open it. is there some other way i can access your model?
i am also trying to make a model of the koshino house. do you know where I can get the measurements of walls and such?
thanks :]

Thanks.
Anybody can tell me where can i find planes of that window??:bang head :bang head
Thanks a lot!.

Hi!! My name is Nicola. I'm from Italy, Venice, i don't speak very good inglish. Have you got some constructive particolar of this house? Of wall, of roof... thank you all

I need correct dimension of koshino house.

I need some money to go to Japan and visit the Koshino House. Can anybody help me? :wondering

ha ha this is a good answer!!! really!!! ha ha ha

My first render try in artlantis... nice model...

Looks like shinny metal bump panels to me... Ando concrete should look smooth as silk :D

Btw, there are litteraly dozens of books available on Ando, not to mention GA detail of his work. Plus, there is a 'not that bad' model posted here already downloaded 1043 times and people are still asking for information, measures etc... Come on, be a little pro-active and stop begging! Ever heard of google search and books? :wondering

Looks like shinny metal bump panels to me... Ando concrete should look smooth as silk :D

if you ever touch one real Ando conc wall, you'll understand :D
The one I touched when I went to Japan was an unforgettable tactile experience!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: SMOOTH AS SILK!

well... I don't really care if the render doesn't look like ando's concrete... ando is almost a god to almost every architect.... and I'm just a student...

The image is just that, and image... an abstract interpretation of ando's work...

well... I don't really care if the render doesn't look like ando's concrete... ando is almost a god to almost every architect.... and I'm just a student...

The image is just that, and image... an abstract interpretation of ando's work...
ok then I don't really care if your intention was to impress anybody by this render but why post things like that on this thread? The real thing is much more appealing and the point of view you've chosen is perhaps the most known one of the Koshino House (well, after the shot of the living room with the tangential sunlight maybe)... so you can't say "hey this is just an artistic interpretation, don't compare to the real thing", we can just reply "this is wonderful" or "this looks like sh**"... And Ando is not a god to almost architect, according to his numerous variety show appearances, he's more a tv star now in Japan :D not to mention Ando is also the name of my pet crawfish (I don't have any dog or cat):P

good luck

ok, i'll try a shot near to "reality", justo to make ME a god... hehehe :P

Michels model is great. I like the way he layouts his work. It`s a good style.
100 percent realism is not able to do here. As Ryo mentions f.e. that the concrete feels like silk- that is just possible by the original, also your impressios when you walk through, the real light to your body, to your eyes, the light on the walls, the feeling,the accustics and the smell in the air...

The model is just an imagine of the real object and gives an impression of it but not the whole building. Rendered photo realistic or not. A real model made by cardboard (...) or a computer model with its different possibilities to show, a photo, a rendering in all forms, a drawn sketch-all has its advantage and all has it `s right to be.
As I see the model should help to see the house as it is in real.

-When a building is built and it "stands":
Better a good 3d model to look inside than just a good rendering. a good rendering is not so good as a good photo. Just thinking of degree of realism and the oeconomic thing like investing time in a pic f.e.

- a one pic rendering for me is good for showing a design how it would be in real, but not for how it is in reality. That`s my point of view.

But "reality" you see in Ashiya , where the house is located , Malditobill.

[thinking mode on]

I detect much less sense of humor than expected

[thinking mode off]

http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9601&stc=1&d=1137431807

That looks real nice.

Does anyone have the .dwg file for this?

Does anyone have the .dwg file for this?

If you have skecthup, your question is pointless. If you haven't, get it.

If you have skecthup, your question is pointless. If you haven't, get it.

My version can only convert to 2D drawings...

hi everybody
i would like to ask why the main bedroom is at 2nd floor??
do this have any important thing should be noticed?

sorry for my poor english
i am a hong kong student

hi everybody
i would like to ask why the main bedroom is at 2nd floor??
You can also say that "the whole house is in the basement!", because the main entrance is on the second floor.

ha then why the main bedroom close to the the main entrance ?
this is not normal in hong kong
the entrance should be near the living room

...
the entrance should be near the living room

Why "should"? :wondering

because the koshino house isn't normal and it isn't in Hong Kong?

Why "should"? :wondering

i know it is not a should or a must
but just like you design a bathroom near the entance
there may be a strong reason

i want to know why he design the main bedroom near the entance

do anyone feel strange of this??

do anyone feel strange of this??

i understand where you are coming from, it's based on traditional chinese housing principles of hierarchy driven by the confucian social system. therefore placing the most important people (ie, head of house) deep within the complex.

But no, after you have studied about housing types from all around the world, it's not strange. If you really want to draw historical/cultural context into the equation, then you should be looking at japanese 'machiya' housing type and its relationship with the japanese culture.

In this case, are the "private rooms" bedrooms?

Many thanks for all the posts...
I needed something like the sketchup file to make a very accurate study on this house (I'm a student). Verrry educational threads...
Thanks again!

Mastermind, you're allways welcome to post your study in response. :wondering

Hi Ryo, I am trying
to open this archive but it is not working. I study Architecture in Brazil, and I have to study all about Koshino House. If you still have this video with the work of the sun light in the house please send me! I´ll be very greatfull!
Sorry for my english! ;)
Alice

Thanks for the tip michel, still as you can see I'm a newbie on this forum ; so how could I knew that pm's are not allowed...?
(Or reply's...)

To all those who have been PM and e-mailing me lately about this house, please, I'm not your local librarian! Most of the informations are already available on this website, and you can easily check the rest for yourself over the internet. I'm always glad to help when I can, but I literally received dozens of demands regarding this project... and I keep on wondering why. Once again, my web ressource is often DatArq (http://www.datarq.fadu.uba.ar/datarq/arq/ando/homepage.html), and anyone with a minimum of will could find it. Please, stop begging for informations! All you need is here! Thank you

Oh, and btw, I only hope half of the people begging here for 'more' information could post and share the result of their work... this thread would become in no time THE web ressource for the Koshino house...

Oh, and btw, I only hope half of the people begging here for 'more' information could post and share the result of their work... this thread would become in no time THE web ressource for the Koshino house...

looks like it IS already :D
And Alice, you could make the movie of the sunlight study with sketchup free and the michel's model ?! I don't understand why you need to look for that page...?!:wondering
It's much interesting to see it by yourself than watching a video, isn't it?

I am learning how to use the sketchup now, so I have some douts, like how can I make a movie... :bang head
But I'm learning! Thank´s for you and Michel, the ones who posted a lot of things about this wonderfull house! :not worth
P.S.: But I'm still curious about the video! :wondering

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Part 1 - The credits goes to the authors, I collected them.
This archive contains:
AutoCAD Files, Sketchup Files, Google Earth Files, Reality Photos, Model Images & Koshino House Images on White background.
The images on white background where modified in photoshop to place them in word docs.

Part 2

Here's my presentation (15 pages), the text is in romanian but can be easily modified with your own. The rest of the pages are full of great images & the layout looks nice. Cheers.

Here's my presentation (15 pages), the text is in romanian but can be easily modified with your own. The rest of the pages are full of great images & the layout looks nice. Cheers.

:clap: perfect:not worth

Here's my presentation (15 pages), the text is in romanian but can be easily modified with your own. The rest of the pages are full of great images & the layout looks nice. Cheers.

Hmmm... mastermind I am having trouble. the files download fine, then autoextracts to a folder but the folder is empty. Using Mac OSX any idea what the problem might be?

Hmmm... mastermind I am having trouble. the files download fine, then autoextracts to a folder but the folder is empty. Using Mac OSX any idea what the problem might be?
I'm using windows and I experienced the same...

Yep, I had the same with windows built in winzip function... works fine when opening with winrar though...

I don't know ANYTHING about Mac OS :) (sorry).
Try Right-Click & Choose "Extract Files".
+ You may have an old version of Win-RAR?

I've personally tested & it works. Hope is going to work for you too...

By the way, I recently found a real huge biography page about Ando:
http://www.pritzkerprize.com/andorel.htm

Does live anyone in Koshino house,and if yes, how many people lived or live there?

I am waitting for the answer...

I found this video quicktime VR panoramic online a while back. I thought I would add it to this thread. Enjoy!

In Hong Kong a couple of months ago, and took a look at this building in Stanley. Looks like Ando, anyone know if it is?
Actually, the building you saw in Stanley-Hong Kong was designed by Architectural Services Department in Hong Kong.

http://www.archsd.gov.hk/ExhGallery_ViewPage.asp?lang=1&ViewProject=stanley_complex

The architecture of Tadao Ando has affected lots of architects for a long time. However, the society also needs a long time to accept the bare concrete facade.

Images from 'Colours of Light' book by Tadao Ando

this is the picture of the ceiling near the stair in the entrance..

i like the effect of the light which created by the openings in the ceilings

roof detail 1

roof detail 2 enjoy...sorry if the picture abit blurr...

i like ANDO design

wow!!! i love this site !!~!~!~!!! im doing a model and essay for uni describing how its "seminal"

seminal 1.providing the basis for future developement
2. highly original or influential


hehe any help on saying why this fantastic Koshino house is Seminal?~?~~?? :D

You tell us! Please.

Michel,
Thanks for this great model !
I hope other master piece models from your hand will follow.

I gave the model a spin in Vray for sketchup.
Always surprising how the use of those concrete panels together with well placed light openings can produce such contrast rich spaces while still gaining a sense of peacefulness and rest.....

Sorry to be the one picking the hair out of your otherwise delicious soup, but the concrete map in the inside corner at the top just irritates me. :(

Sorry to be the one picking the hair out of your otherwise delicious soup, but the concrete map in the inside corner at the top just irritates me. :(

I could easily call the waiter and tell you the hair came from Michel :D

:D:D:D Oliver, you're an eagle eye!

He he....it was soooo easy to blame it on someone else.....
Sorry Michel :D

"...I just :bump: the render button"

I hope the next one gets through the 'tiling-commission' :P

Some more appropriate furniture for the space.

...and some quick exterior try:

How many time only for a render? (10 minutes, 30 minutes, more , less)

The interiors reached a render time between 2 and 2.5 hours. With some tweaking of the settings R time probably can be a lot less.
The exterior took about 20 minutes. (original resolution about 1250X...)

The oval room shot with a really wide lens 15 mm: (render time little over 1 hour after tweaking some settings)

Michel,
Thanks for this great model !
I hope other master piece models from your hand will follow.

I gave the model a spin in Vray for sketchup.
Always surprising how the use of those concrete panels together with well placed light openings can produce such contrast rich spaces while still gaining a sense of peacefulness and rest.....

where is that nice chair from?
I am trying to convert Rhino files to sketchup files...any advice?

i really like this model! hope i can learn to do models this neat soon.

Any chance of dimensions/measurements? Just kidding!
I have to present a sectional model on Jan 7th, what with a trip home at Christmas I would be in serious trouble without the help of this model. Thanks so much for sharing.
In the unlikely event that I meet the deadline I will post some pictures.
What with them asking for a sectional model I would imagine they are expecting a little more in the way of cill details and how they are embedded in the concrete rather than squeezed into openings as an afterthough - yet another example of Ando's respect for craftmanship. I'll see what I can come up.
And you're right, I think this thread is well on it's way to becoming the No.1 resource on the Koshino House. One of the first results I found on Google and by far the most helpful.

Anybody help me please! I reeeally need Cad drawing of this house or construction techniques. It's last project of universirty. thank you, thank you

aZZa, it's a bad idea to write down your e-mail on a public forum. Besides, people can get in touch with you with 'private messaging' or even e-mail directly from here.

Now, concerning your demand for dwg of the Koshino house... I hope you went through all the reading. If so, and if you have sketchup, you question is already answered.

Oh! i'm sorry, really sorry every body about that. I , I don't think it's the bad thing and thank you, Michel, for your warned. I'll be careful! Thank you so much!
And about Koshino House, I want to study as much as good. Thank you!

I read in a book there's a terrace in this house which is aligned to the view of the sea. Anyone has any idea where the terrace is and in which direction is the sea?

I do not like the rooms in a line.

I remember that one of the rectangular blocks had already been subjected to A&A works, also by Ando.

I read in a book there's a terrace in this house which is aligned to the view of the sea. Anyone has any idea where the terrace is and in which direction is the sea?
I posted a kmz (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24112&postcount=30) a while ago.

Tadao Ando is truly a master of his unique works, thanks for the data and model!

At the start of the thread someone said they had the facsimili set of original drawings for koshino house. If anyone has these or the drawings from Tadao Ando Details (i'm after details for this project), could they please get in touch with me, either through this thread or PM.

Thankyou all

as an ando fan i must thank you for the model, u did a great job :)

hi everyone this is my first post. I'm a student and, for a change, i too have to analyse the koshino house.
all of this information has been quite helpful, but im having a hard time figuring out the "elevation" for my model. could anyone help me out?

thank you so much.

Thank you Michel for this fantastic model. I had a go rendering it:

say whaaat

i could've swore those were images of a real model

what did you use to render it?

say whaaat

i could've swore those were images of a real model

what did you use to render it?

Thanks JP1988, I first set this model up in v-ray, but for these shots I rendered them with Hypershot. Had to reshuffle my last post due to posting requirements so here's the rest:

wow amazing..

not meaning to steal your thunder, but have you guys seen this thread?

http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1890

yes, plenty of times.. you almost got me !

i wish it was real... it would have saved me a lot of work hours on my model... :D

guys my new assignement is to analyse the structure of the koshino house.. which means.. they want me to do a model based on the pillars and other constructive elements of the house.. how can i figure that out from this ordinary plans i've got?? its impossible ! LOL
any ideia?

Larac, from what I know/understand/read, Koshino house is cast in place concrete. Basically means it's all structural.

really? gosh.. im going to investigate that. thank you so much Michel!

heres mine i just finished got about 22-23 hours in it

materials: 2ply chipboard, 3/16" and 1/2" black foamcore, 1/8"x1/8" bass for the steel beam, and 1/16"x1/16" bass for the trees. enjoy

Could you please upload the pics to the forum?
See here. (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7682)

more

just a couple more ;)

can anyone tell me how does Tadao Ando organize his space? my prof. always talk about him. thanks. nice models by the way.

can anyone tell me how does Tadao Ando organize his space? my prof. always talk about him. thanks. nice models by the way.

the resources are all there, why don't you take a good look and study it properly and tell us what you think instead, that way you actually learn something.