Casa Yucatan | Inspiration

[wegofaster]

I am to design a pool and outdoor living area for a Yucatan Hacieanda Inspired residence here in Austin, Texas.

I am looking for some inspirational designs or architectual photos from the area of the yucatan penninsula in Mexico.

I will post the site and specifics.

Thanks in Advance for your help. :)

[wegofaster]

There is a view to the lake on the NE corner.
A neighbors house on the NW corner that need to be minimized.
And a neighbor to the West that will have minimal impact.

[cacapis]

Barragán would be the closest relation easily found to what you ask. Actually I don't know what Yucatan Hacienda is exactly.
Here (http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=748&page=2&pp=10) are some images of Los Clubes where he has a very interesting water feature.
The way Barragan used water is very influenced by arabic architecture where they used those water labyrinths and canals in gardens to cool the environment (some places even had handrails with water). I think something like that would work well in a climate like texas.

[wegofaster]

O'Neill Ford was the architect that created this house.
Some info on him.
Biographical Sketch of O'Neil Ford
"Born in the town of Pink Hill, Otha Neil Ford (1905-1982), attended an elementary school in nearby Sherman with a progressive curriculum influenced by the arts-and-crafts movement. From the first grade on, he learned to draw and to build what he drew. Following his father's death in a railroad accident, Neil became the family breadwinner at age 12. To obtain work, he developed a flair for persuasive showmanship, one of many aspects of the complex Fordian persona that he was to invent as he progressed through his long and extraordinarily influential life.

"The family moved to Denton, where, during his high school years, Neil haunted the libraries at the local colleges. In 1924, he entered what was then North Texas State Teachers College, a block from his home, He did well in manual training and Shakespeare, the subjects that interested him, but was forced to leave college after two years. His only formal professional training was a basic architecture course from the International Correspondence School of Scranton, Pa. Ford's lack of university education became part of his mystique.

"In 1926, Ford entered the Dallas office or architect David R. Williams, where he served an apprenticeship. Flamboyant and often outrageous, Williams had "star quality" and, quite naturally, was Ford's first role model and mentor. Williams responded to Neil's abilities as a designer. Working together they produced a number of houses in North Central Texas that were distinguished by the integration of architecture and crafts and the use of native materials. The Hugh Drane residence in Corsicana is a notable example. Williams closed his practice in the early '30s; as deputy administrator of the National Youth Administration from 1936 to 1941, and in influential posts with other federal depression-recovery agencies, he was able to direct commissions to Ford.

"Ford formed his first viable partnership in 1936 with Arch Swank. Significant early jobs for the Dallas office of Ford and Swank were the Little Chapel in the Woods on the campus of Texas Women's University, constructed by National Youth Administration trainees and college art students; and a house on St. Joseph's Island for oilman Sid Richardson.

"Ford's move to San Antonio was precipitated by his work as consulting architect on another NYA project, the restoration of La Villita. He married Wanda Graham in 1940 and settled into the Graham homestead, Willow Way. The house's ambience dramatically influenced what come to be called the Ford style: a mix of worn stone and low-fired bricks, tile floors, and well-crafted wood, united by a lack of pretension.

"In 1946, Ford formed a new partnership with Jerry Rogers that lasted until 1953. Their interest in innovative building systems, such as the Youtz-Slick lift slab process, was put to the test in 1949 when, thanks to William Wurster, another enthusiastic Ford supporter, Ford & Rogers won the commission to design a new campus for Trinity University in San Antonio in association with Bartlett Cocke & Associates. Work at Trinity would span three decades.

"The firm known as O'Neil Ford & Associates was established in 1953 (lasting until 1966), as was Ford's Houston-based partnership with Richard Colley and William Tamminga, which lasted until 1956. From the mid-'50s on, associated architects Ford, Colley & Swank, with planner Samuel B. Zisman, collaborated on a number of projects for Texas Instruments.

"The partnership with Boone Powell and Chris Carson came into being in 1967. Campuses for Skidmore College in New York and the first phase of UT San Antonio (in association with Bartlett Cocke) are examples of the firm's work, as are scores of understated residences including that of Mr. and Mrs. Marshall Steves in San Antonio.

"Generations of bright young architects were eager to work for the dynamic Ford. In fact, his best work was done in collaboration with talented young associates who practiced what he preached. And preach he did, tirelessly traveling the lecture circuit. He made himself the grand old man of Texas architecture, simultaneously its eternal naughty boy and its valuable conscience.

"Ford's work was nationally published. Among Ford's honors were his appointment by President Lyndon Johnson in 1968 to the National Council on the Arts; by David Rockefeller, Jr. in 1975 to the American Council for the Arts in Education; and in 1977 to the advisory panel for federal Foreign Buildings Operations. The first endowed chair in the School of Architecture at UT Austin was named for Ford.

"Until he died in 1982, O'Neil Ford was contentious and ebullient, and he never lost his childlike sense of wonder."

[Source: George, Mary Carolyn Hollers. 1989. O'Neil Ford. Texas Architect 9 (6): 52-3.]

[wegofaster]

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utaaa/00059/aaa-00059p1.html#did

A link to Fords Archive

[wegofaster]

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[wegofaster]

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[cacapis]

That house is even closer to arabic architecture than what barragan does. On the other hand that liver shaped swimming pool falls really short on possibilities.
Go for arabic features!!! Maybe try some fixed furniture with water around it. Great for hot getting wet during hot sunbaths

[ilnomedellarosa]

Jan

Sweet climate, beautiful ceramics and colors :) I like it !!! :))))))))))))))

I can help a bit, but not now :))
You have very fine work :)

[cacapis]

Ok, I couldn't find anything truely arabic to show. This is a palace in Mallorca, Spain built during moroccan invasion and then modified by spanish.
You can more or less see what I'm talking about here. Anyways I was referring to those highly geometric designs that make water go all around the place usually with tiles simmilar to that yucatan hacienda.

[wegofaster]

Thanks Caca,
I appreciate your help. My family is from spain, so i have seen many of these types of fountains.
Thanks Again.

Any other ideas? :cheers:

[jcruiz]

This is not in Yucatan, but could serve as reference

[jcruiz]

Same hacienda in Guanajuato. This is the chapel.

[jcruiz]

Rear entrance, faced to park

[jcruiz]

Another view, same facade

[jcruiz]

This stone spanish colonial ruins are part of same landscaping in this hacienda

[jcruiz]

Proportions and scaling between openings and wall, are a main issue in mexican architecture

[ilnomedellarosa]

Jan

Mexico 1

[ilnomedellarosa]

Mexico Style 2

[ilnomedellarosa]

Mexico Style 3

[ilnomedellarosa]

Mexico Style 4

[ilnomedellarosa]

Mexico Style 5.

[ilnomedellarosa]

a book for You :)

[ilnomedellarosa]

My suggestions :
-original "juicy" colors
-original "old "tiles
-not geometrically but oval forms , arches
-atmosphere of sweet laziness - hammock, deck-chair, natural tissue


I can scan more photos :)

[ilnomedellarosa]

http://www.thevillasgroup.com/french.html

[ilnomedellarosa]

sweet laziness ;) oh, I'like It :D

[ilnomedellarosa]

Casa Yucatan :)

[ilnomedellarosa]

massage table and pool ;) :

[ilnomedellarosa]

hammock and pool

[ilnomedellarosa]

Very important - light :)

thanks
mimi

[ilnomedellarosa]

Jan
Mexico colours :)

[ilnomedellarosa]

numbers of colours:

http://www.behr.com/behrx/inspiration/practical_8.jsp

I can find for You numbers of colors Tikkurila and Levis and names of tiles.

I have Mexico collection in my bathroom (inspire art of aztek, not Yucatan, by dado ceramica) but I know collections for sweeming pools too :D

mimi

[Mr Sparkle]

Jan
Mexico colours :)


color in Yucatan are not used as often, actually the color that dominates is white, all over with some tile accents, mostly red, in some cases different color clay tiles have been used recently, but not as often, the Gaudy influence was a bit further north as this port was for a time rather sparse, colors are mostly the natural colors of the material itself.

[ilnomedellarosa]

Mr Sparkle

We do not know exactly as house in Austin looks.
There are only inspirations , not concepts :)

[ilnomedellarosa]

Jan

Yucatan, Villa Merida - pool - viev 360 '

http://www.differentworld.com/mexico/hotels/villa_merida/pages/pool_surround.htm

[ilnomedellarosa]

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[Victório Rojas]

My suggestions :
-original "juicy" colors
-original "old "tiles
-not geometrically but oval forms , arches
-atmosphere of sweet laziness - hammock, deck-chair, natural tissue


I can scan more photos :)


please ilnomedellarosa! intersting images! beautiful local mexican arquitecture ;)

cool link of Yucatan:
http://www.farhorizon.com/south-america/hidden_maya_cities_of_the_yucata.htm

[Victório Rojas]

arcs, water, colors, light, flowers, simplicity>>>tequila :cheers:

[Mr Sparkle]

Mr Sparkle

We do not know exactly as house in Austin looks.
There are only inspirations , not concepts :)


Oh, I know, my point is that when people think of "Mexican" architecture, they mistakenly think in involves some retina-damaging use of color. :puke:

my point is it doesn't always specially in Merida.

[ilnomedellarosa]

Victorio

beautiful local mexican arquitecture ;)

heheh, o yes, hotels for tourists are as folklore in pill, hehe
They are "better" than original sometimes ;) :D

mimi
I can scan more photos

I can scan original photos of local architecture from my book. But they will not be good.


p.s.We have showed same fountain ;) :D

[jparchitectus]

Just don't scan the entire book ;)

[ilnomedellarosa]

hehehhe, Jan knows my e-mail ;)

[ilnomedellarosa]

Mr Sparkle

Oh, I know, my point is that when people think of "Mexican" architecture, they mistakenly think in involves some retina-damaging use of color. :puke:

my point is it doesn't always specially in Merida.

I understand you perfectly :D
It's as on this arrangement of ceramics -"mexican" colours, "mexican"art, kaktus and........Kahlo Frida !!! ;) :D :D :D

[ilnomedellarosa]

..and Yucca from Yucatan ;) , hehehehh

[ilnomedellarosa]

don't forget about Frida Kahlo and tequila ;)

[Mr Sparkle]

Oh man, when I'm able to upload, I'll get some really good stuff I have on old photos.

I just have to scan them all.

[oscarin]

The architecture at Yucatan avoid colors, because the Sun light is soo bright that damage tha hue and saturation.

I like white and shadows games.

[Mr Sparkle]

The architecture at Yucatan avoid colors, because the Sun light is soo bright that damage tha hue and saturation.

I like white and shadows games.


Yes, thank you! that's what I'm saying.......

[Archjake]

Thanks for the photos ilnomedellarosa

I was looking at these photos asking my self why are they so rich in "style"

I've spent most of my 28 years in Tucson AZ located about 100 miles from the Mexican border. so... It just struck me. Thoes images contain a true style. Real materials, Real spaces, and Real textures / shapes. Its hard to put a finger on it. But, the real point is that Tucson is largely full of buildings trying to emulate a "mexican" architecture. It doesn't work. Everything is too clean, too hard, too fake, too toned down. I look at the hammoc haning over the pool with the column out of the water. Like there was once a ruin or something that existed (a roof & structure) and due to age, or lack of maintance the column remains but there is no roof. It gives this space and pool a true personality with history. A sense of place!

Thank you.

I can't say that I would ever want to design a "mexican" architecture, but I do respect it for what it is and the spaces that are created.

[cacapis]

those last pictures mimi posted are really fake. Not only they look fake but also are obvious. The light coming from the window is conical and there is no shadow from a roof in that room.
Anyways this thread is waaaay off it's original purpose. I would like to know how Jan's pool is going

[mimilapin]

cacapis

Ceramic tiles are not bad (polish -Tubądzin ), but arrangement - kitsch :o

[mimilapin]

Colonial Merida Yucatan - very pretty

1.

[mimilapin]

colonial Merida

2.fountain

[mimilapin]

colonial Merida
3.garden

[mimilapin]

Merida - Yucatan

terrace

[mimilapin]

Merida Yucatan - stones garden

[mimilapin]

Merida Yucatan - original ceramic tiles

[mimilapin]

Merida Yucatan - original colours - bath room - very nice :)

[mimilapin]

colonial Merida - pool 2.

[Pedro Barradas]

Merida Yucatan - original ceramic tiles

mimi, I think those are not ceramic tiles (#58)...they seem to be hidraulic tiles, they are semi-hand made, usually they are made with cement and lime ( the substract) then is compacted on the final suface, a hidraulic coloured mixture with the desired patern... more or less is this... :confused:

[mimilapin]

Merida Yucatan - pool 3.

[Pedro Barradas]

Merida Yucatan - pool 3.

Mimi, this is a nice one, almost as an roman bath...

[mimilapin]

Pedro

hand made - I think too :) , very, very nice :)

[mimilapin]

Pedro

Snow falls in poland now..but I'love sun ...I can dream about sun virtually :P

Merida - pool 4.

[Pedro Barradas]

Manufacturing

Fact are made with white marble powder, sand very thin silica, pigments and cements. The operation begins with pouring the first layer that has 5 mm or for patterns we make and work with separators brass for making a lot of colors.

The second layer is mixed powder and we work it with small sieve .The third layer dosen't have a lot of water, it is the fattest one. We passed one ruler straight surface of the tile. We press everything in one different mould with a hidraulic press.

We take the paves and we put them in the water for 12 hours and after we try them in the air for 3 weeks and after we pile them in boxes. We make one traditional manual product fact one by one with many rustics patterns of artisanals squares, borders or simple linked.

You can find factories of that in Spain, Portugal and Moroco

[mimilapin]

original yucca from Yucatan - colonial style :

[mimilapin]

Merida Yucatan

[mimilapin]

My last photo

colours, colours...

p.s. thanks Pedro - I'love hand mades products :)

You can find factories of that in Spain, Portugal and Moroco

Italy, French too :)

[Pedro Barradas]

My last photo

colours, colours...

p.s. thanks Pedro - I'love hand mades products :)



Italy, French too :)

...I believe in that too countrys too..It's an Mediterran thing... so probably exist in the other Magrebe countrys too...

[mimilapin]

Pedro

You have fairest material - beautiful marble :) And long, rich tradition.
As brick in belgium and holland :)

[mimilapin]

Curious informations of materials, colors, structures
"Casa Yucatan"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1586850334/ref=sib_dp_pt/104-1922999-7387951

[mimilapin]

Nice work wegofaster :D

Yucatan -Campeche

[mimilapin]

for the end - jacuzzi bath ;) :P

and

Yucatan photo gallery

1.Dominic Arizona Bonuccelli

http://www.azfoto.com/yucatan/1.html


2.Elizabeth Medina

http://www.elizabethmedinaphotography.com/portfolio1.html


mimi

[mimilapin]

and for Pedro...

hand made tiles and wonderful interiors - Yucatan

I'love it ... colours, furniture, old walls, ceramics

1.dining room

[mimilapin]

2.bedroom

so.....colors, materials, ceramic tiles, paints, hammocks, fountains, plants ...Yucatan Style

Jan's pool will be beautiful !!! :)

[wegofaster]

WOW!!!! :cheers: :rock on:
Thanks Everyone (mimi - you outdid yourself :D ) for all of this inspiration... The pool design is almost complete.
All these photos... great... a bit off topic with some, but overall, lots of inspiration.
Sorry I did not interject more, but i wanted the ideas to come from you without my input, as i had a mental block that i did not want to interject on everyone else.
We decided to go with an all white theme, using color tile as accents.

I will post a Rendering in black and white, maybe I can get some help in the color department.

[wegofaster]

I would like to know how Jan's pool is going

Here is a rendering of the first concept.

[cacapis]

Liking it so far, BUT it's still somewhat preliminary. I would like to know what you think about the materials you'll use. Are you going for the tiles or just some color?
I like the idea of shading the swiming pool. Keep it up!

[mimilapin]

Jan

It's a honey for my heart ;) :D ...mniaaam :not worth

[wegofaster]

Thanks mimi, thats why your so sweet.

The color of the pool walls and stucco finish will be white. The decking will be done in Terra Cotta tiles, with hand painted color accents, or a canterra stone (taupe shell stone). The 2 columns will most likely be canterra stone as well. The shade structure will be an Australian fabric made of burlap, and synthetic fibers for strength. The pool area shaded by the fabric is a 6inch deep lounge area used as a beach.
Will post some other views soon. :)

[mimilapin]

wegofaster
The color of the pool walls and stucco finish will be white. The decking will be done in Terra Cotta tiles, with hand painted color accents, or a canterra stone (taupe shell stone). The 2 columns will most likely be canterra stone as well. The shade structure will be an Australian fabric made of burlap, and synthetic fibers for strength. The pool area shaded by the fabric is a 6inch deep lounge area used as a beach.

Jan, you know your client's house best and you know what is better
Terra Cotta tiles, with hand painted color accents - very beautiful or
a canterra stone (taupe shell stone) - very nice too

white color or sun-drenched colors of burnt ochre, colonial red, and Mayan blue :)

white color ...

[mimilapin]

1.stone...

[mimilapin]

2.stone...

[mimilapin]

3.stone...

[mimilapin]

4.stone...

[mimilapin]

5.stone...

[mimilapin]

2.white color...

A bit similar :P

[mimilapin]

colonial red, arches / Victorio ;) :D /...

[mimilapin]

ceramic tiles, orange...

All photos are from Merida or Campeche

[mimilapin]

...so Jan, You must choose :D

Your project is absolutely fantastic for me :not worth

'...Sun - drenched colors of burnt ochre, colonial red, and mayan blue ignite walls and bring subtle traditional details to life mesmerizing stone-chinked surface patterns, ornate stucco designs, and intricate stencils. Interiors glisten with wall fountains, reflecting pools, and bathtubs that channel to autdoor pools. Hammock - lined portales beckon with leather butacas, daybeds provide restful summits in gardens, and shady courtyards invite respite and reflection...'

...Yucatan Style

[mimilapin]

Haciendas Mexico/Puerta Campeche - colors, arches, stone - colonial style

3D View Yucatan Hacienda Pool (http://www.haciendasmexico.com/puertacampeche/360/alberca1.php)

3D Hacienda (http://www.haciendasmexico.com/puertacampeche/360/entrada.php)

3D Garden/Jardin (http://www.haciendasmexico.com/puertacampeche/360/jardin.php)

Hacienda Uayamon - colonial colors, arches, stone - colonial style too

3D Hacienda (http://www.haciendasmexico.com/uayamon/360/entrada.php)


Hacienda Temozon /35 min drive from Merida/ - colonial style too

3D Hacienda/Garden (http://www.haciendasmexico.com/temozon/360/entrada.php)


Puerta Campeche - a 17th century colonial building, strategically located in the historical city centre of Campeche, recognized and protected by the international patrimony of the UNESCO, recreates the belle époque of the Mexican southeast. - very beautiful :D

[mimilapin]

Jan

You prefer white and naturals colours, as me :D /J. Pawson, T.Ando, A.C.Baeza/..not arches etc. ;)

I wait for effects, there will be suuuuuuuper, I know ...tequila for mimi ;)

and now, I'm going to my private Mexico - Merida ;) :D

[mimilapin]

ceramic tiles - Dado ceramica /Italy/ - Mexico Merida Collection - detail
colour ispiration /from my bath - room/

thanks

[mimilapin]

aha, Jan, last photo - very nice element is here:

[wegofaster]

mimi, we may have to hire you as our researcher :)
you definately have some resources to tap into for inspiration... what search engine do you use?

Thanks again for all of your intrest, and helpful research :cheers: :rock on:

[mimilapin]

thanks Jan , It was very nice, as 'voyage voyage' :P

what search engine do you use?

search engine...called mimi's intuition ;) :D

p.s. Umberto's Eco "Il nome del la rosa" stay in PPB2 library ;) :D

[mimilapin]

wegofaster


mimi
p.s. Umberto's Eco "Il nome del la rosa" stay in PPB2 library ;) :D

Mexican Style (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789304023/tierrayfuego/104-7385968-7596766) Amazon's 'Library'


the best for You:

In A Mexican Garden: Courtyards Pools And Open-Air Living Rooms

Traditional Mexican Style Exteriors

Mexican Tiles: Color, Style, Design

Mexican Architects; Tradition and Modernism

and others :)

[mimilapin]

mimi

...but I know collections for sweeming pools too

Something special for You , Jan :P

handcrafted Mexican ceramic talavera tiles - Merida collection:

[mimilapin]

About Handmade Mexican Talavera ceramics (http://www.tierrayfuego.com/TalaveraTiles/nature_of_talavera.htm)

[mimilapin]

PHOTO GALLERY EXTERIORS (http://www.tierrayfuego.com/Gallery/index_exteriors_tierra_y_fuego_ceramic_tile.htm)

and the best for me, very very nices - solid colors :) Talavera Ceramic Tiles (http://www.tierrayfuego.com/TalaveraTiles/PlainColors/index.htm)

Mexican white - color - beuty! :D